oceanddeep
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January 4th, 2014 at 8:50:56 PM permalink
Hello,
Can anyone help me to calculate odds of a new deck? I launched this project on KS but I am having difficulty with calculating odds.
2 decks are combined into 1. That means 1 card displays 2 different cards.
The combinations are A2, K3, Q4, J5, 106, 97, 88, 79, 610, 5J, 4Q, 3K, 2A;
The suit combinations are heart-spade, spade-diamond, diamond-club, club-heart;

Preflop hands: 4 combinations instead of 1. For example, A2 and 97 hand give us {A9, A7, 29, 27} combinations. In this way it is similar to Omaha. But flop odds are very different because 3 cards of flop give us more combinations. I am trying to calculate but lost in the way.
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January 5th, 2014 at 9:19:51 AM permalink
Quote: oceanddeep

Hello,
Can anyone help me to calculate odds of a new deck? I launched this project on KS but I am having difficulty with calculating odds.
2 decks are combined into 1. That means 1 card displays 2 different cards.
The combinations are A2, K3, Q4, J5, 106, 97, 88, 79, 610, 5J, 4Q, 3K, 2A;
The suit combinations are heart-spade, spade-diamond, diamond-club, club-heart;

Preflop hands: 4 combinations instead of 1. For example, A2 and 97 hand give us {A9, A7, 29, 27} combinations. In this way it is similar to Omaha. But flop odds are very different because 3 cards of flop give us more combinations. I am trying to calculate but lost in the way.



Just a few thoughts from a non-mathematician.

So on any given hand, you may only use one end of the card, and you must choose which end to use, correct?

Are you still using a 5 card common group, or stopping with 3 on the flop (which makes 6 to choose from)?

There would be a huge, though distinct, group of hands that would have to be excluded from the calculation, which would have to reach 14 cards potentially if you're doing a whole THE layout. That would be an eNORmous calculation.

I would not think that any normal odds could apply because of the linkages/exceptions, and I don't know how you would treat 8's except as a liability, since to get one is to exclude one.

It's a really interesting concept. I think a whole new game would have to come from it, rather than fitting it into anything being played now. Perhaps you might link your kickstarter site here and people could get more details about what you're doing? Might help attract someone with the skills to help you.

Good luck; interesting creativity.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
charliepatrick
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January 5th, 2014 at 2:36:35 PM permalink
fwiw there was a brief casino game using a customised card deck having two cards on each card ( http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/switchmatch.html ). It appeared in Reading but I've not seen it for a while.

Essentially the deck consisted of every combination of two from 1-6 (except a pair - hence 15) and then of each suit including the same (hence x16 - giving 240 cards). You chose one set of cards (aka top) as the high total and the other end (bottom) as the low hand. Dealer had to have High>Low, but player didn't (and in some cases you didn't).

As to above deck, have you considered different combinations since having a pair of Aces means you also always have a pair of 2s.
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