Talk about bad luck
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Got 52.50.
my hand Ad Qd 5s 4s. 2 other players. I called before the flop. Player A raised to 4. player B raised to 19. I re-raised to 52.5(All in).
Player A called and re-raised to 172. player B folded. Player A had Kh 10c 9h 8c.
Flop 9d 5d 4d. Nut flush on the flop. Player A got a pair of 9.
Turn another 9. player a got a trip. I still have a nut flush.
River 8.
Player a got a full house of 9 with 8 kicker.
Rivered big time and out of money.
What a joke and bad luck.
Hope it wasn't the rent money !
Quote: speedycrapI just played Omaha high online..50-1 British pound on William Hill.
Got 52.50.
my hand Ad Qd 5s 4s. 2 other players. I called before the flop. Player A raised to 4. player B raised to 19. I re-raised to 52.5(All in).
Player A called and re-raised to 172. player B folded. Player A had Kh 10c 9h 8c.
Flop 9d 5d 4d. Nut flush on the flop. Player A got a pair of 9.
Turn another 9. player a got a trip. I still have a nut flush.
River 8.
Player a got a full house of 9 with 8 kicker.
Rivered big time and out of money.
What a joke and bad luck.
Twice in my Omaha Hi-Lo career I've flopped the nut flush with the nut low and didn't drag a chip. Board pair on the turn, counterfeit on the river, and the pot got shipped to the other end of the table.
Perhaps I don't know Omaha high well but is that hand so strong that you should go all-in before the flop? (I probably would go All-In with the flop flush)Quote: speedycrapOmaha high .. Ad Qd 5s 4s
Quote: s2dbakerPerhaps I don't know Omaha high well but is that hand so strong that you should go all-in before the flop? (I probably would go All-In with the flop flush)
If I'm reading the OP correctly, he did go all-in before the flop, but he was short-stacked and couldn't forceout the eventual winner. In my limited experience, for Omaha, that was a very strong hand; he had many good potential hits with 2 sets of flush cards, 2 sets of straight cards, 2 sets of SF cards, AQ in any suit. He had 11+11+12+48+15+3 outs for top pair or better on the flop, not counting trips/full house catches. His hand in the aggregate was slightly stronger with the Ace, but the other guy's hand had more straight potential with the 10-9-8, and roughly the same potential otherwise. Both should be all-in before the flop with those hands as good bets, win or lose. It matters a lot that you have to use 2 and only 2 of your own hand to complete the 5 card best hand in Omaha.
Quote: s2dbakerPerhaps I don't know Omaha high well but is that hand so strong that you should go all-in before the flop? (I probably would go All-In with the flop flush)
I only got 52.50 British pounds and other players got from 100-500 British pounds. every hand got raised to 3.5-4.5 pre flop. The hand got re-raised to 19 before coming to my turn. my decision is fold costing 1 and waiting for another turn. Or re-raised to all in. Cause I had a Ad Qd potential nut flush and other flush draw plus 2 straight draw. My decision was to go all in. Right decision. Got the nut flush as I hoped for. But wrong result.
SIGH!!!!! What could I do!!!!!!!
Quote: speedycrapI just played Omaha high online..50-1 British pound on William Hill.
Got 52.50.
my hand Ad Qd 5s 4s. 2 other players. I called before the flop. Player A raised to 4. player B raised to 19. I re-raised to 52.5(All in).
Player A called and re-raised to 172. player B folded. Player A had Kh 10c 9h 8c.
Flop 9d 5d 4d. Nut flush on the flop. Player A got a pair of 9.
Turn another 9. player a got a trip. I still have a nut flush.
River 8.
Player a got a full house of 9 with 8 kicker.
Rivered big time and out of money.
What a joke and bad luck.
I talked to my buddy, Al, a world class pot-limit Omaha player about this hand. His comments were:
1. From you're description of the hand you were probably out of position.
2. You got double raised behind preflop. Player B, who folded, probably had your hand totally dominated.
3. You put 52.5 big blinds in the pot with nothing. You only had a very small edge against KT98. And you are lucky you didn't run into a pair of Aces or Kings. You probably did but player B folded.
4. Al would like to invite you to his game.
I will save up first.
But thanks for the reply.
I was looking at a one timer cause i only had 52.50
Quote: mickeycrimmI talked to my buddy, Al, a world class pot-limit Omaha player about this hand. His comments were:
1. From you're description of the hand you were probably out of position.
2. You got double raised behind preflop. Player B, who folded, probably had your hand totally dominated.
3. You put 52.5 big blinds in the pot with nothing. You only had a very small edge against KT98. And you are lucky you didn't run into a pair of Aces or Kings. You probably did but player B folded.
4. Al would like to invite you to his game.
There you have it, from the maestro. Very good, mickey, thanks for the education.
Quote: beachbumbabsThere you have it, from the maestro. Very good, mickey, thanks for the education.
Thanks, Babs. But I have to give Al the credit. He's the Omaha player. He had some other things to say about the hand, AQ54, double suited, with the Ace being suited to the Queen....and how the hand was played. If he would have just called the raise then moved in on the flop he would have won the hand. Here's Al's overall view of playing this type of hand:
"What kind of flop do you like with that hand? The nut flush, the Ace high straight, the wheel. But those flops are rare. Any other kind of flop and you are on shaky ground. What if the flop comes something like AT7? Now what are you gonna do? About the only spot I like that hand is in the cutoff or the button. From the cutoff I'll open raise if I think I have fold equity. If the button or the blinds like to call to many hands then I'll muck it. I'll open raise on the button but if I get called I'm gonna slow way down unless I flop a monster. The only way I would call a raise with that hand is 1. I'm in position. 2. The raiser raises with a wide range of hands. 3. He plays bad after the flop."
I always try to make a big hand. That is why I go all in a lot of times. sometimes it works and sometime it doesn't.
Quote: KB1I have had a bad year too. I guess I lost $50k. I am gonna take a break from the casino and go back to my childhood gambling addiction...Opening football cards.When I was young I collected many thousand dollars worth.I used the money to pay off all my credit cards and truck payment.
That used to be my fix. Of course the cards I opened weren't worth a hill of beans. Like 90-91 Skybox basketball and the like. One day though in 2003, the new cards from Topps Finest came out and I bought 2 boxes. Didn't get anything. Was about to leave and noticed one more box. I was like "Well I bought 2/3rds of the stores inventory, might as well get this last box.
On the last pack of the last box, I saw something shiny. Turned the card over and a 1 was staring back at me. Well any basketball fan knows who went #1 that year. It was a standard Refractor limited to 1/250. There was also a gold version limited to 1/25, but what I pulled was good enough for me.
Didn't really feel like sending it in for redemption so I just sold the card as is on Ebay for 525 dollars. Spent about 300 on cards to get it so came out ahead for that day anyways. I realized I was probably never going to get as good of score as that so I never bought another pack of any kind of sports cards after that day.
Nowadays the card companies don't even put up the pretense. They pretty much let you know it is gambling. They sell packs between 25-1000 dollars and put everything under the sun in there. Jerseys, court pieces, football fields, signed checks. Surprised they haven't cut up a dress yet from a girl an athlete has had an affair with and put that on a card. I guess the other reason I stopped was that You used to have maybe 1-3 companies. You had a rookie card and that was it. Then came numbered cards, short prints, inserts, refractors, signed cards. Unless you were a tycoon, you weren't completing a set. Now imagine that done of 20-30 card sets a year. Just too much to keep track of.
Either way sorry to hear about your loss and good luck getting a score from a pack. I don't know how the card business is today but hope you get a nice return.
