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DonPedro
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October 11th, 2013 at 10:33:47 AM permalink
I am having trouble understanding this concept .

Also, I understand that I must use 2 cards from my hand, but I make a set or quads, from the board by only using 1 card that matches(from my hand) and a kicker.
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October 11th, 2013 at 11:25:03 AM permalink
1) A 'live' card is a shortcut used to determine how good your low hand is. When the board has 4 or 5 low cards, you can only use 3 of them. If you have at least 2 low cards, and one of your cards matches the board, you still probably have a good low. The card that does not match the low is called 'live'.

It is called live, because although your low hand appears to be counterfeited, you in fact have a qualifying low.

Example time: a live Ace. You hold A2KK, and the board is 2346Q. Your Ace is 'live', because although your 2 is counterfeited, your low is A2346. Note that this is a good low, but not the nut low.

2) Yes. If there is 3 of a kind on the board, and you have the 4th, you have quads. The 3 on the board, your 4th, and the kicker from your hand (which is immaterial, since no one else has the same quads as you).

If there is a pair on the board, and you make a set, your kicker could matter. But beware, if there is a pair on the board someone almost certainly has a full house in no-fold'em omaha8. Don't play a set with kickers, unless you understand that you are really drawing to a full-house.
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October 11th, 2013 at 11:28:11 AM permalink
Quote: DonPedro

I am having trouble understanding this concept .

Also, I understand that I must use 2 cards from my hand, but I make a set or quads, from the board by only using 1 card that matches(from my hand) and a kicker.


Hi DonPedro,
Think of it as you must use 3 cards from the board.
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DonPedro
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October 11th, 2013 at 11:31:55 AM permalink
Thank you, great explanation ! It has been explained to me many times but I think I am getting it. :)

So the nut low would be A5 for the wheel correct ?

Also I thought you had to use 2 cards from your hand and exactly 2 ?

So in the example above , Ia m using the A from my hand and 3 from the board for low, correct ?
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October 11th, 2013 at 11:35:47 AM permalink
Quote: DonPedro

Thank you, great explanation ! It has been explained to me many times but I think I am getting it. :)

So the nut low would be A5 for the wheel correct ?

Also I thought you had to use 2 cards from your hand and exactly 2 ?

So in the example above , Ia m using the A from my hand and 3 from the board for low, correct ?


You still have to make a 5-card poker-hand: Must use 3 from the board + 2 cards from you hand.
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October 11th, 2013 at 12:02:25 PM permalink
Quote: dwheatley

1) A 'live' card is a shortcut used to determine how good your low hand is. When the board has 4 or 5 low cards, you can only use 3 of them. If you have at least 2 low cards, and one of your cards matches the board, you still probably have a good low. The card that does not match the low is called 'live'.

It is called live, because although your low hand appears to be counterfeited, you in fact have a qualifying low.

Example time: a live Ace. You hold A2KK, and the board is 2346Q. Your Ace is 'live', because although your 2 is counterfeited, your low is A2346. Note that this is a good low, but not the nut low.

2) Yes. If there is 3 of a kind on the board, and you have the 4th, you have quads. The 3 on the board, your 4th, and the kicker from your hand (which is immaterial, since no one else has the same quads as you).

If there is a pair on the board, and you make a set, your kicker could matter. But beware, if there is a pair on the board someone almost certainly has a full house in no-fold'em omaha8. Don't play a set with kickers, unless you understand that you are really drawing to a full-house.



You can use 2 different cards for the High hand as well. So in the example above you would use A2 for low and KK for high hand. I assume you already know that but I wanted to point it out just in case.
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October 11th, 2013 at 12:30:38 PM permalink
Quote: DonPedro

So in the example above , Ia m using the A from my hand and 3 from the board for low, correct ?



?

A2 from the hand, 3,4,6, from the board.

You use exactly 2 cards from your hand. They can be different for the hi and the lo.
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October 11th, 2013 at 12:33:43 PM permalink
You must use 2 cards for each hi and low. They can be the same or they can be different. So in the example above
You hold A2KK, and the board is 2346Q

Your low hand would be A2 346 and your high hand would be KK Q64

That is what makes hi low so fun. There have been many times where I had a hand like this and was calling thinking that I had just the low hand and ended up with both or the other player had A3 in their hand so we chop the low and I win the high with just KK. There have also be times and probably more often than not when the other player has A5 which gives him A2345 for the low and a A-5 straight for the high.
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