Las Vegas Poker Rooms ??
What is the difference in play LHE vs NLHE ?
What is the difference in play cash vs tourney NLH ?
Huge differences between LHE and NLHE. You can chase in LHE and others will chase you. NLHE can be expensive to chase and can make a big bet to get rid of chasers. Other huge differences.
Cash and tourney, big differences here. Tourney usually has more aggressive play and betting. Pressure ratchets up as blinds go up and fewer left. Tournament is about survival and lasting as long as possible. Cash, more of a tendency to call an all in bet, your tournament life is not at risk. Other huge differences.
My suggestion is to play a lot. During the peak of online poker, I played a ton, it really helped in my live play. Nothing beats experience in getting better at NLHE. Boy I miss online poker.
If you already have success at 4/8 Limit stick with it. Why play something you're not comfortable with?
The problem with the lower limit no-limit games is that they attract a lot of know-it-alls who watch too much poker on TV and if they have an Ace in their hand they're all in pre flop.
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The problem with the lower limit no-limit games is that they attract a lot of know-it-alls who watch too much poker on TV and if they have an Ace in their hand they're all in pre flop.
What is the problem? Those sound like the players I would want to play with.
Quote: DRichWhat is the problem? Those sound like the players I would want to play with.
Because you don't know that they are playing crazy and they can force you off good hands.
I like to play with people who are skilled and don't do dumb things. I want to play poker and not bingo.
But if you like that kind of play, come to Hollywood Park and sit at the $40 buy in no limit tables. Youll be all in with just about every hand.
Quote: AlanMendelsonBecause you don't know that they are playing crazy and they can force you off good hands.
I like to play with people who are skilled and don't do dumb things. I want to play poker and not bingo.
But if you like that kind of play, come to Hollywood Park and sit at the $40 buy in no limit tables. Youll be all in with just about every hand.
It's high variance but once you know they do that you're way ahead of their shoving range when you get in preflop.
Quote: djatcIt's high variance but once you know they do that you're way ahead of their shoving range when you get in preflop.
that's a very nice thought but once you get it figured out are you sure you'll still be getting the good hands to win?
Having the skill to recognize how other players play (and bluff) is only part of what's needed to win. You also need to have the "lucky cards" to win once you recognize another player is bluffing. Bluffers can also get lucky and win.
Like I said, if you like this style of play come to Hollywood Park. There is no shortage of these kind of players and your maximum loss per hand is only $40. :-)
For 1/2 or 1/3 NL, well you can find that nearly everywhere.
Quote: AlanMendelsonthat's a very nice thought but once you get it figured out are you sure you'll still be getting the good hands to win?
Having the skill to recognize how other players play (and bluff) is only part of what's needed to win. You also need to have the "lucky cards" to win once you recognize another player is bluffing. Bluffers can also get lucky and win.
Like I said, if you like this style of play come to Hollywood Park. There is no shortage of these kind of players and your maximum loss per hand is only $40. :-)
You're probably being short-sighted. If I could get in $40 at even a 55% shot reliably, I'd be laughing. People put that kind of money up on tables games all the time, against an edge.
It can be frustrating to lose against worse players a few times in a row, but I'm sure it will help to think of them as dice at a crap table. Imagine playing Don't Pass Odds that pay 1-1. That's poker against bad players.
Someone suggested continuing to play 4-8 LHE. I like limit poker myself and would play this but it is declining in popularity and getting hard to find. A lot of the smaller rooms run a 2-4 game but why bother with pots so small relative to the rake? Bellagio, Venetian, and some of the locals casinos have 4-8 LHE but it is mostly filled with grumpy old nits.
It seems some Vegas poker rooms can change their "identity" quite rapidly, sometimes with the help of management and sometimes in spite of management's intentions.Quote: DonPedroWhat is the difference in play cash vs tourney NLH ?
I'm informed that the M Poker room used to have a great reputation for poker but then became a room where real poker players were driven out and every one was playing for the various specials and bonuses. Some tables went around: anyone qualify for the Special? If no one did, they all threw in the cards and chopped the blinds, then immediately dealt another hand hoping to qualify for the special rather than play poker. Now it seems the room is destined to change itself around but the Manager is leaving in six months and changes may be made.
Quote: AlanMendelsonthat's a very nice thought but once you get it figured out are you sure you'll still be getting the good hands to win?
Having the skill to recognize how other players play (and bluff) is only part of what's needed to win. You also need to have the "lucky cards" to win once you recognize another player is bluffing. Bluffers can also get lucky and win.
Like I said, if you like this style of play come to Hollywood Park. There is no shortage of these kind of players and your maximum loss per hand is only $40. :-)
Yeah trust me I've been rivered enough times with significant equity on the turn. Kinda one of the reasons why I don't play anymore. I still do scout for fish on tables. Once cleared a good $700 out of a fish on a heater. Other players stacked her up, and I gutted the winnings. EZgame, if you can flop a hand. If not your image goes up as a nit and don't get paid off as much.
Quote: FleaStiffIt seems some Vegas poker rooms can change their "identity" quite rapidly, sometimes with the help of management and sometimes in spite of management's intentions.
I'm informed that the M Poker room used to have a great reputation for poker but then became a room where real poker players were driven out and every one was playing for the various specials and bonuses. Some tables went around: anyone qualify for the Special? If no one did, they all threw in the cards and chopped the blinds, then immediately dealt another hand hoping to qualify for the special rather than play poker. Now it seems the room is destined to change itself around but the Manager is leaving in six months and changes may be made.
Isn't the M poker room run by Cantor Gaming now? Like the Palms? Venetian too? I heard that.....
Quote: AlanMendelsonThe problem with the lower limit no-limit games is that they attract a lot of know-it-alls who watch too much poker on TV and if they have an Ace in their hand they're all in pre flop.
As DRich pointed out, such a game would be HUGELY profitable.
And even if you wanted lower variance, you could just wait for even stronger cards. Say you know their betting range (approximately) and know that the best range to play EV wise is, say, A9s+, AJo+, KQs, and 88+, then you could just tighten that range to AJs+ and 1010+ to have a hugely profitable play and small variance.
Yeah I'd love to be in a game where everyone shoved Ax+. I understand you're exaggerating, but if your goal is profit, you should want to be in those games.
