rebelaccountant
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:17:34 AM permalink
Every so often me and few guys get up to have a few drinks and catch up. Usually after a few drinks we end up opening our wallets and start playing cards. Most of the time we end up playing what we call in-betweens (I think a lot of folks call it Acey Deucey).

The house rules are pretty simple-

$5 pot ante.
2 Cards are dealt you bet up to the pot if the third card will be in between the first two
Ace is low, King is high. Ties lose.

My question is what would be optimal strategy? I would assume that only betting 7 or higher card spreads would give me an edge, but we have a few risk takers that get on hot streaks and the antes end up eating into my "bankroll"

Any Ideas???
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WongBo
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:20:07 AM permalink
It is also called Red Dog.
The wizard has a page on it...
https://wizardofodds.com/games/red-dog/
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
rebelaccountant
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:25:16 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo

It is also called Red Dog.
The wizard has a page on it...
https://wizardofodds.com/games/red-dog/





Thanks! Never heard it called Red Dog. So with 7 being the break point where I do have the edge, how could I calculate how the ante would effect the "edge"???

Or should I just look at the ante as a "vig" or price to play the game????
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WongBo
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:31:38 AM permalink
Your rules are a little different than red dog.
Your ace is low.
You don't have a pay out structure.
You only use one deck.
I am not sure of the answer to your question.
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hook3670
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:49:41 AM permalink
We used to play it in college. You had to call the first ace, if an ace came second it was high. Here is the kicker a tie means you had to double the pot and yes i once got the third ace and had to cough up a little over $250 and almost threw up right at the table!
rebelaccountant
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February 21st, 2012 at 11:59:18 AM permalink
I think the most I lost was 100 on a A-K spread. That tie's a bitch.

We've had pots go to close to a grand before with 6 people playing. Usually with those we get nervous and split up the pot.... which can work out well if you play it right.
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odiousgambit
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February 21st, 2012 at 1:04:48 PM permalink
Quote: rebelaccountant

you bet up to the pot



The Red Dog casino game would seem to be the same, except you are playing against the house and with certain payouts. In your game it sounds like there is one pot that is worked 1:1 until someone wins the whole pot? There might be an advantage to declaring the game over, we've had enough fun, right after you have won a big pot. Not sure.

I have seen this played at "dealer's choice" poker games, turning friendly into unfriendly. It's possible it is stupid to call '7 card stud' when dealer but let someone else call 'acey deucey' when they are dealer. Again not sure, but I have suspected so, or that there is some other way to get advantage play going on. I refuse to play under those circumstances.

The most memorable action is to see the ace-king or ace-low ace-high spread. Everyone instinctively bets the pot on that. Sure enough you see players get slaughtered on that, like there is a fix in. I would say you would want to shuffle constantly. I wish I could do some math for you, but if no fix is in, bet the pot if you have the cash on big spreads like that. Bet very little or, if it is within the rules, pass when you have the small spreads. Perhaps someone can figure out the strategy on medium spreads.

PS: someone could be counting cards if you don't shuffle constantly.
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February 21st, 2012 at 1:13:22 PM permalink
The money for the security deposit and rent on my first apartment came from A Red Dog game.
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