Money Wheel
July 1st, 2011 at 8:45:37 AM
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I just put up a new page on a Big Six variant called the Money Wheel. I'd appreciate any comments or corrections before I announce the page to the general public.
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July 1st, 2011 at 9:09:56 AM
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When posting an article that includes the house edge for that game and games like it, I would go one step further and post the house edge for a more fair game just for comparison. Since this game is mindless, I'd just show the house edge for equally mindless Baccarat so that a person crash landing on the page from a Google search doesn't think that betting the $10 is actually a good thing to do.
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July 1st, 2011 at 9:11:40 AM
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..."dealt by a attractive..."
I would change the 'a' to an 'an'.
I have no comment about the math; It's too challenging for me, but I trust you.
I would change the 'a' to an 'an'.
I have no comment about the math; It's too challenging for me, but I trust you.
July 1st, 2011 at 9:15:39 AM
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In the total line, you have pays 0 instead of being blank.
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July 1st, 2011 at 9:24:29 AM
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All the calculations check out. The only thing I didn't (and don't care to) verify is the table comparing Money Wheel to various other Big Six games.
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July 1st, 2011 at 9:49:50 AM
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That is the best way to represent it.Quote: mipletIn the total line, you have pays 0 instead of being blank.
I would have the "bottom line" as the final sentence of the introduction.
>in June 2011. The Big Six has an average house edge of..............., the Money Wheel has an average house edge of ..........
Short, sweet and to the point right at the top of the page. No Hem, No Haw, No Song, No Dance. If they want the analysis and proof and fine details they can keep reading. If they just want to know what it is and how it holds up against similar games then give it to them. If they don't look down the page and see Lisa's photo, that is there loss but do give them the essential "bottom line" in the introduction. What it is and also how it stacks up to other alternatives that are very similar or else very commonly encountered.
July 1st, 2011 at 9:50:16 AM
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I assume that, aside from the 4 extra multiplier stops, the 52 are the same as Big Six. You should mention that.Quote: IntroductionWhat makes the Money Wheel different is 56 stops instead of 52, and some of them are multipliers.
On the flip side, the distribution chart shows only a single $40 stop. Aren't there 2?
That seems rather Sucky, Sucky.Quote: RulesIn the event the wheel stops in a Lucky Lucky twice in a row then all wagers will lose.
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July 1st, 2011 at 12:48:56 PM
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It was a little hard to follow the progression of the wheel landing on a "Lucky Lucky" space, and the resolution of the next spin. I think what was confusing was using the term "any win":
I would suggest rephrasing it to:
Four positions on the wheel, identified as "Lucky Lucky 2x (two spots), 3x (one spot), or 5x (one spot)", will multiply the win. If Lucky Lucky sounds familiar....
I would suggest rephrasing the third sentence to:
The multiplier amount is noted by ______________, and the wheel is spun again. If there are any winning wagers after the second spin, payouts are multiplied by the amount indicated.
Quote: Rules #3
Four positions on the wheel will multiply any win, known as a Lucky Lucky. If that sounds familiar, it is because Lucky Lucky is also a blackjack side bet, also invented by the owner of the Jackpot Casino.
I would suggest rephrasing it to:
Four positions on the wheel, identified as "Lucky Lucky 2x (two spots), 3x (one spot), or 5x (one spot)", will multiply the win. If Lucky Lucky sounds familiar....
Quote: Rules #4If the wheel stops in any Lucky Lucky then all bets will remain in place. No new bets will be allowed. Then any wins on the next spin will be multiplied by 2, 3, or 5, depending on which Lucky Lucky the wheel stopped in.
I would suggest rephrasing the third sentence to:
The multiplier amount is noted by ______________, and the wheel is spun again. If there are any winning wagers after the second spin, payouts are multiplied by the amount indicated.
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July 1st, 2011 at 7:12:04 PM
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Thanks for all the comments. I made quite a few edits based on the suggestions.
About the stops, Big Six actually has 54, so Money Wheel has two more. There is one less $1 stop on the the Money Wheel, and only one $40 bet. So there are two less immediately winners + two extra stops = four Lucky Lucky stops.
Unlike Big Six there is only one $40 bet.
About the stops, Big Six actually has 54, so Money Wheel has two more. There is one less $1 stop on the the Money Wheel, and only one $40 bet. So there are two less immediately winners + two extra stops = four Lucky Lucky stops.
Unlike Big Six there is only one $40 bet.
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July 1st, 2011 at 8:33:50 PM
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Oh. Duh. I guess they had to get that extra payout cash from somewhere...Quote: WizardThere is one less $1 stop on the the Money Wheel, and only one $40 bet.
For the record, I guess if I was inclined to play Big Six, I'd give this a try - and that's even without knowing the math.
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July 2nd, 2011 at 7:27:54 AM
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Right up top, in the Rules list, number 3 says:
Two Lucky Lucky spots multiply the next win by 2x, one 3x, and one 4x.
Then, Rules number 4 says:
The outcome of the next spin will determine the winning wager, as usual, but the odds will be multiplied by 2, 3, or 5, depending on which Lucky Lucky the wheel stopped in the previous spin.
So one spot says x4, the other says x5.
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The example below the rules has incorrect payout.
Let's look at an example. The player bet $20 on the $5 spot. The wheel lands in the 3x Lucky Lucky. The next spin it lands in $5. The player would win $20×3=$60.
Wouldn't they win $20×$5×3=$300? They bet $20 on the 5-to-1 ($5) spot, then got the ×3 spot bonus.
Two Lucky Lucky spots multiply the next win by 2x, one 3x, and one 4x.
Then, Rules number 4 says:
The outcome of the next spin will determine the winning wager, as usual, but the odds will be multiplied by 2, 3, or 5, depending on which Lucky Lucky the wheel stopped in the previous spin.
So one spot says x4, the other says x5.
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The example below the rules has incorrect payout.
Let's look at an example. The player bet $20 on the $5 spot. The wheel lands in the 3x Lucky Lucky. The next spin it lands in $5. The player would win $20×3=$60.
Wouldn't they win $20×$5×3=$300? They bet $20 on the 5-to-1 ($5) spot, then got the ×3 spot bonus.
-Dween!
July 2nd, 2011 at 7:42:13 AM
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I only had time for a quick read but I might suggest how to tell the difference between the two at a glance. The wheels look similar and players of these games don't seem to like searching for the best payoffs.
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July 2nd, 2011 at 8:19:31 AM
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Good catches, Dween, thanks. I practically rewrote the rules after the comments here, and introduced new mistakes. It has been corrected. The wheel does have Lucky Lucky multipliers of 2, 2, 3, and 5. The 4x was the error.
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July 2nd, 2011 at 10:30:32 AM
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The table with the slot breakdowns still lists a 4x space.
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July 2nd, 2011 at 3:24:53 PM
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Well, I've always wanted to move to Australia ... this is one more reason but I don't think I'll be able to win enough at the Big Six wheel in order to pay for the passage to Australia.
I did note that the Money Wheel bet on the Ten Dollar stop is only a bit more than roulette's house edge. So if the Big Six is thought, by some, to be a bit lackadaisically spun from time to time, what about this Money Wheel? Can it be clocked or is there any bias-detection short cuts? Its likely there is less surveillance attention to such a game.
I did note that the Money Wheel bet on the Ten Dollar stop is only a bit more than roulette's house edge. So if the Big Six is thought, by some, to be a bit lackadaisically spun from time to time, what about this Money Wheel? Can it be clocked or is there any bias-detection short cuts? Its likely there is less surveillance attention to such a game.
July 2nd, 2011 at 7:34:34 PM
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Red Deer, Alberta is Canada, not Australia...
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