Never Bust Blackjack
When I got home I ran a simulation of Never Bust Blackjack and then wrote up a quick page for it. Please click on the link and let me know if you have any questions or comments, before I announce the game on the Odds site.
Thanks.
Quote: WizardYesterday I did the new game tour, checking out Never Bust Blackjack at the Planet Hollywood, Power Blackjack at the Paris, Wild 52 at the Flamingo, and 3 Dice Football at O'Sheas.
When I got home I ran a simulation of Never Bust Blackjack and then wrote up a quick page for it. Please click on the link and let me know if you have any questions or comments, before I announce the game on the Odds site.
Thanks.
Just my $.02 but maybe you might want to put a blurb comparing the decision-making to "Casino War" what with both being mindless games good for beginning table game players.
BTW: For those of you in western PA, "Casino War" is now available at Rivers Casino. It must be very new because I saw a Pit Boss giving very basic instruction to a dealer yesterday.
Quote:The only piece of advice I can give is to never take insurance, even when the player has blackjack too (i.e. "even money" in 3 to 2 games).
You might want to mention that if they offer "even money" in the 6:5 games, you should take it. (Only with an Ace up, that would be a real suckers bet if they offered on a 10/face up.)
stop back later to see how I am doing??
Quote: odiousgambit; Also "event" threw me a bit, instead of "no. of decks" which I came to think it meant.
It looks like you copied the first table and meant to change "event" to "number of decks" and forgot.
Quote: SOOPOOI would think that you should add something like ' as opposed to regular blackjack games, doubling or splitting or surrender a
re not allowed'. This will reinforce that this is truly a distant cousin of blackjack, and a quite boring cousin at that.
I second this opinion !
5. A dealer hand of 15 points will push.
Does the push on 15 happen only after the dealer busts and the bust card is removed? Does it matter what the player has at that time? From the probability table, it looks like it doesn't, but I think that could be clearer. If that's the proper interpretation, you might want to indicate that this is where the sizeable house edge comes from, as opposed to actual blackjack where the edge comes from the dealer's last-mover advantage. That advantage seems to be gone in this game according to the rules you've described.
Regarding "even money" in 6 to 5 games, I thought it was the norm to only offer "even money" in 3 to 2 games. Has anyone ever seen it offered in a 6 to 5 game?
About the column heading "BJ pays 1.2," I thought that made the short pay more clear. I seriously think many Americans would not understand what is more, 3/2 or 6/5. Then again, said players are probably over at John Patrick's site and not mine.
Quote: MathExtremistDoes the push on 15 happen only after the dealer busts and the bust card is removed? Does it matter what the player has at that time?
Yes and no. Note that the 15 rule would help the player with 12 to 14 points. I have tried to make the rules more clear per all your suggestions.
Quote: MathExtremist2. Both player and dealer must hit until reaching a hand of 17 or more, except hitting a soft 17.
5. A dealer hand of 15 points will push.
Does the push on 15 happen only after the dealer busts and the bust card is removed? Does it matter what the player has at that time? From the probability table, it looks like it doesn't, but I think that could be clearer. If that's the proper interpretation, you might want to indicate that this is where the sizeable house edge comes from, as opposed to actual blackjack where the edge comes from the dealer's last-mover advantage. That advantage seems to be gone in this game according to the rules you've described.
A dealer's FINAL total of 15 (having 'bust' and discarded the bust card) will push all players' hands, whether higher or lower than 15. However, 'Blackjacks' still get paid at 6/5 or 3/2 depending on the version installed.
The sizeable house edge comes from the 6/5 rather than the 'push on 15' (as in regular Blackjack where 6/5 raises the edge considerably). For 3/2, at 1.89% house edge, this is a reasonable edge bearing in mind that the players cannot make any playing errors to increase this edge further.
The game was designed to appeal mainly to novice players and those that are intimidated by regular Blackjack games. The players who enjoy the challenges that regular Blackjack brings are unlikely to find this game compelling enough to play particularly with the 'no need for skill' element.
No.Quote: buzzpaffSince there are no decisions to be made, can I leave $500 at the table , tell dealer to play $25 a hand and stop back later to see how I am doing??
It may fall under the rule that verbal instructions are not binding. Or there may be other rules.
Only Keno and sports bets allow 'absent' gaming. But these differ from table games in that a bet receipt is provided, and each event can be reviewed historically.
For what it's worth, one of my long-term goals in my Poker For Roulette side bet is exactly this: The ability to place the bet for a specific number of events, receive a receipt, and be able to get a historical review of the results.
Might make any spins remaining when I got back to the table very interesting. I have only glanced at
Poker for Roulette. Guess I should look at in more depth before making any comments !
Quote: charliepatrickI first saw this a while ago in Birmingham. It also had some optional side bets which (if I recall) paid between 3-1 and 20-1, I think they were paid for a tie - but as I say it's a while ago. The basic game was very boring, although one dealer forgot the 15 rule so it was a 0% game! The other players I saw seemed to be more interested in the side bets. As you say the house edge is when the dealer gets 15 it's a standoff versus paying player Blackjacks more.
Yes, it has a 'Tie' side-bet in the UK paying either 3/1 or 20/1 depending on the tie total.
If the dealer forgot to push on 15's then it gives you a healthy 2.3% edge on the game as you get 3/2 on 'Blackjacks'.
Quote: charliepatrickI first saw this a while ago in Birmingham. It also had some optional side bets which (if I recall) paid between 3-1 and 20-1, I think they were paid for a tie - but as I say it's a while ago. The basic game was very boring, although one dealer forgot the 15 rule so it was a 0% game! The other players I saw seemed to be more interested in the side bets. As you say the house edge is when the dealer gets 15 it's a standoff versus paying player Blackjacks more.
Where in Brum is it?
Quote: WizardRegarding "even money" in 6 to 5 games, I thought it was the norm to only offer "even money" in 3 to 2 games. Has anyone ever seen it offered in a 6 to 5 game?
That has been my experience. "Even money" is normally short hand for taking insurance against a dealer Ace. It wouldn't work out to "even money" if blackjack only paid 6 to 5. I would think that such an option would have to be an approved game with the commission.
Quote: THESWEENEYWhere in Brum is it?
It's not in Brum anymore, the closest casino to there is Coventry which I think has it in. Grosvenor have about 7 placements of 'Neverbust', 2 of 'Burn 20 Blackjack' and 3 of 'XX Poker' which are 3 games that I have marketed in the UK.
Quote: SwitchIt's not in Brum anymore, the closest casino to there is Coventry which I think has it in. Grosvenor have about 7 placements of 'Neverbust', 2 of 'Burn 20 Blackjack' and 3 of 'XX Poker' which are 3 games that I have marketed in the UK.
Geoff, am I mistaken, or did I read a post on here where you mentioned some games you were trialling in Gala casinos?
Quote: SwitchIt's not in Brum anymore, the closest casino to there is Coventry which I think has it in. Grosvenor have about 7 placements of 'Neverbust', 2 of 'Burn 20 Blackjack' and 3 of 'XX Poker' which are 3 games that I have marketed in the UK.
Geoff, am I mistaken, or did I read a post on here where you mentioned some games you were trialling in Gala casinos?
Quote: THESWEENEYGeoff, am I mistaken, or did I read a post on here where you mentioned some games you were trialling in Gala casinos?
It could have been a typo' by me as all of my new games are being trialed in Grosvenor casinos. Unfortunately, I don't get the same level of interest from the Gala group.
