SuperNatural
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January 26th, 2021 at 1:39:11 PM permalink
Do you have a house edge for this game? wizardofodds.com/games/face-up-three-card-poker/


I ran the strategy from the link above thru a sim and have roughly -3%

Discount Gambling has -1.8% given his simplified strategy.

I figure there's something up with my code but thanks for reading.
ThatDonGuy
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January 26th, 2021 at 1:49:05 PM permalink
Are you remembering to raise if you have a flush or straight, even if none of the cards are 9 or better?
SuperNatural
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January 26th, 2021 at 2:14:38 PM permalink
Yes but I am also raising with any Pair or better.

If I have just High Card then ..

A,9,2 and higher: Always raise
8,7,5 and lower: Always fold

Otherwise I refer to his table.
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July 18th, 2021 at 9:15:07 AM permalink
Quote: SuperNatural

Do you have a house edge for this game? wizardofodds.com/games/face-up-three-card-poker/


Some casinos allow one to play the bonus (pair plus) only. For me, I have a two-fold edge: 1) only one bet which saves me 67% of my buy in so I get to play 3X longer, and 2) I am not playing against the house so that their hands never come into play. I either win or lose on my cards. One other thing, I never look at my cards. The dealer turns them over. A $10 table gives me a minimum 10 hands to play.

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July 18th, 2021 at 9:26:53 AM permalink
Interesting use of the word, "Edge."
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 18th, 2021 at 10:37:20 AM permalink
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Interesting use of the word, "Edge."


Sometimes "edge" doesn't necessarily mean winning. It just might allow for extended gaming and the possibility of beating the House during that extended time at the table
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Just thinking a bit outside the box.

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July 18th, 2021 at 11:03:27 AM permalink
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Sometimes "edge" doesn't necessarily mean winning. It just might allow for extended gaming and the possibility of beating the House during that extended time at the table
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Just thinking a bit outside the box.

tuttigym



I just said it was an interesting way to use the word. You can use any word in any way you want, boxes notwithstanding.

We use, “House edge,” so it typically means the equivalent of, “Advantage,” in gambling parlance.

You’re using it to mean, “Perhaps losing slightly more slowly,” which I guess isn’t totally untrue given that there is some correlation between winning the Pair Plus side bet and a greater probability of winning on the main game. I guess only playing one is technically less bad than playing both.

I don’t know the House Edge of your Pair Plus bet as I have never been to the casino in question.

As ever, what has even more of an, “Edge,” than playing this your way is not playing that game at all. House Edge of 0%, expected loss of $0.00 and, in terms of time, you can NOT play the three-card poker game for the rest of your life, if you want not to.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 18th, 2021 at 11:21:32 AM permalink
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I just said it was an interesting way to use the word. You can use any word in any way you want, boxes notwithstanding.


Yes, I can.

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We use, “House edge,” so it typically means the equivalent of, “Advantage,” in gambling parlance.


Perhaps you have noticed that I am not the "typical" type. You ever go to court and fight a speeding citation or a parking ticket? I have and even though that "House Edge" is huge, I have won. I am NOT a lawyer either. I don't do "typical."

Quote: Mission146

You’re using it to mean, “Perhaps losing slightly more slowly,” which I guess isn’t totally untrue given that there is some correlation between winning the Pair Plus side bet and a greater probability of winning on the main game. I guess only playing one is technically less bad than playing both.


I knew you would see the positive side.

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I don’t know the House Edge of your Pair Plus bet as I have never been to the casino in question.


It does not matter, for me, it is fun, and sometimes I actually walk away a winner.

Quote: Mission146

As ever, what has even more of an, “Edge,” than playing this your way is not playing that game at all. House Edge of 0%, expected loss of $0.00 and, in terms of time, you can NOT play the three-card poker game for the rest of your life, if you want not to.


Actually, you are wrong again. Playing with the possibility of winning or not, if one is really aware, can provide a sense of well-being and joy.

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July 18th, 2021 at 11:34:26 AM permalink
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Yes, I can.



I know you can. I just said you could. You don't even need my permission, though. I can also start referring to faucets and instead call them, "Vacuum cleaners," without the need for your permission.

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Perhaps you have noticed that I am not the "typical" type. You ever go to court and fight a speeding citation or a parking ticket? I have and even though that "House Edge" is huge, I have won. I am NOT a lawyer either. I don't do "typical."



I hadn't noticed anything about you. I respond to posts and click, "Thank you." I don't even look at who the poster I am responding to was most of the time. I've never received a speeding citation to fight. I fought a defiant trespass charge once, if that counts. I lost. I think I'd have won had I appealed.

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I knew you would see the positive side.



I saw the, "Less negative than it could theoretically be," side. It's the far side, but not so far as to be outside of the box.

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It does not matter, for me, it is fun, and sometimes I actually walk away a winner.



We're here to discuss gambling, so I opine. Powerball ticket buyers sometimes win. As long as you enjoy what you are playing, it's all good.

It just surprises me why you would post here or what you might be expecting. You don't need any assistance we can provide to be a losing gambler. It's so easy that most people do it without the need for any outside contribution or ideas.


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Actually, you are wrong again. Playing with the possibility of winning or not, if one is really aware, can provide a sense of well-being and joy.

tuttigym



I do not get a sense of well-being or joy from being in casinos. But, if I win the money that I am expected to win playing with an advantage, I can use that money to buy things that might provide a sense of well-being and joy when I am no longer in the casino.

In both cases, that sense is fleeting, of course, and ultimately doesn't matter. Nor does this conversation. I'll leave you alone now; have a pleasant day.
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July 18th, 2021 at 4:32:07 PM permalink
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I know you can. I just said you could. You don't even need my permission, though. I can also start referring to faucets and instead call them, "Vacuum cleaners," without the need for your permission.


Yes you did and yes you can.



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I hadn't noticed anything about you. I respond to posts and click, "Thank you." I don't even look at who the poster I am responding to was most of the time. I've never received a speeding citation to fight. I fought a defiant trespass charge once, if that counts. I lost. I think I'd have won had I appealed.


When one stands up for their righteous cause, it always counts. Did you defend yourself or did you have help? You do not have to answer. What is important is that you took a stand. Appeals can be expensive and extremely time consuming and sometimes stressful.

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We're here to discuss gambling, so I opine. Powerball ticket buyers sometimes win. As long as you enjoy what you are playing, it's all good.


Yes it is.

Quote: Mission146

It just surprises me why you would post here or what you might be expecting. You don't need any assistance we can provide to be a losing gambler. It's so easy that most people do it without the need for any outside contribution or ideas.


I read; I ask questions: I get feedback; I learn. In the next paragraph, you talk of your "expectation" of "winning" and "playing with an advantage." So enlighten me, what game or venue and what particular play gives you that "advantage."? Does that "advantage" produce "winning" at a rate that exceeds 60%? You see. I read. I ask questions. Hopefully, I will get feedback. I will learn.

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