billryan
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October 18th, 2018 at 10:08:49 AM permalink
Anyone familiar with this old casino game? I recently passed on a framed game felt of this game that was from Trader Bills Casino.
I didn't know such a casino, but now know it was once on Fremont, in the building where White Castle is.
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October 18th, 2018 at 10:16:36 AM permalink
I've never heard of it. I looked it up in Scarne's Complete Guide to Gambling. He has I think 14 dice games listed, but nothing called Dicey Dice.
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October 18th, 2018 at 10:29:58 AM permalink
I thought it was a home game , but it had the Trader Bills logo on it.
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October 18th, 2018 at 11:00:02 AM permalink
Is this it?

Looks like it's just a layout for a home craps game with a trademarked name.
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October 18th, 2018 at 11:54:15 AM permalink
What you "now know" mostly isn't true. The one partial factoid that is reality-based is that 'back-in-the-day' something named "Trader Bill's" did indeed exist on that corner at 4th & Fremont. But. There was no Trader Bill's "Casino." Someone representing it as memorabilia from an actual casino there is *ahem* confused, or just plain scamming.

Trader Bill's was a kind of large-ish (relatively - as I recall it) souvenir (el-junque) type shop, dating from way before the idea of "souvenir" stuff was even generally known as "a thing." It was doing business on that corner for a long time (85 years according to the former owner) selling knickknacks, and "I'm here & you're not" type postcards, tacky supposedly Western styled shirts, cheapo "jewelry" and assorted "Vegas" themed crapola. There was no casino connected to the Trader Bill's themed junk peddling business there. Ever.
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October 18th, 2018 at 12:10:40 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Is this it?

Looks like it's just a layout for a home craps game with a trademarked name.




That's the very one.

I find a few vague references to Trader Bills Casino, but more about the Trader Bills gift shop.
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October 18th, 2018 at 12:13:56 PM permalink
https://mcmanusauctions.hibid.com/lot/44847319/dicey-dice-table-felt-from-trader-bills-casino?q=dicey+dice

The description clearly says from Trader Bills Casino.
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October 18th, 2018 at 12:51:17 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

https://mcmanusauctions.hibid.com/lot/44847319/dicey-dice-table-felt-from-trader-bills-casino?q=dicey+dice

The description clearly says from Trader Bills Casino.


Yes, it certainly does. The seller's description "clearly says" exactly that in the sales description he/she wrote on that site for selling stuff. And it isn't true, because Trader Bill's was not a casino. Except apparently now in internetland where all manner of alternate kinda sorta almost truth-y narratives can exist for sale or rent.

And if someone is feeling particularly kind and trusting, one can charitably choose to assume that the person selling it believes it. Perhaps after becoming honestly confused about the actual provenance of his souvenir. Or not. And what the actual felt in the seller's posted sales pitch photo actually says is "Las Vegas" and "Nevada" prominently across the top. And then, in much smaller print at the bottom also apparently a line [copyright name] "Traderbills - Las Vegas - Nevada" if I'm squinting correctly at the image. And what is actually printed on the item is actually totally true! Las Vegas was and is indeed in Nevada! And, Trader Bill's really was in both of them! But was never a casino, which is probably why the printed felt doesn't say so on that delightfully kitschy themed souvenir. Because it was a souvenir shop. And nothing else. And it stayed that from it's earlier & smaller times::



But when you're asking folks in the actual physical universe, you can still find many people around town who'll recall and in many cases will continue to feel a tad annoyed at the "re-purposing" of the (eventual final & somewhat 'modern' big version) of the sign:



...before it was pimped out to a burger joint:



But believe what you like. Especially if you've gotta turn around and sell that sucker now. Since "it's Vegas Baby!"
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