Baccarat Question
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what version of Baccarat?Quote: islandman4lifeIf my bankroll is $10 and I bet $1 each bet and I only bet on the banker.
If it is regular Bacc your $1 win pays 95 cents plus the $1 back
I have a table of data for Banker and Player bets for hitting goals and ruin
with 10 unit bankroll (handy)
but i no show
unless i know what a $1 Banker bet pays where you play when it wins
commission free versions have something different for the Banker win at times
super fun!
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the interesting thing is Player has the better chance of turning $10 into $15 than Banker, yep
do to paying even money when the Banker win pays a 5% commission
do tell
my Mom wants to go play Baccarat tonight
Sally
Quote: RomesIf you're trying to do this to actually make money it won't work. If you're doing this for fun, then have fun but expect to lose. The game carries a negative house edge built in, let alone your "bankroll" can't withstand any variance so you have a high probability of Risk of Ruin (RoR) and this seems online which means even if you somehow did get lucky and make some money you'd have to deal with every fear that comes from playing online (not getting paid, cash out delays, cash out fees, etc). Probably worth investing your time in to something else =P.
I live next to a gambling house and they own a gambling website. I can withdraw as many money per day in a multiple of $5.
So no fee of cashing out because where I live we have no tax.
Quote: islandman4lifeI live next to a gambling house and they own a gambling website. I can withdraw as many money per day in a multiple of $5.
So no fee of cashing out because where I live we have no tax.
So what?
Do you live on an island where the laws of mathematics are different? Where Casinos allow money to just flow out of their hands into yours? An island where physical truths that have been pored over and worked through and analysed for hundreds of years just turn out to be wrong? And you, with your $10 bankroll are just going to draw funds out to live on forever.
Stop posting dude, start reading the words and answers that you have pleaded for. We don't need to do your specific and simple maths questions to tell you that you are setting yourself up to bleed all your money to the casino, 50c or $1 or $10 or $100 at a time.
The casino is not a free cash dispenser (ATM) that gives you free money if you just hit the buttons to a sequence that you designed.
You are not that clever. They are not that dumb or generous.
Quote: OnceDearSo what?
Do you live on an island where the laws of mathematics are different? Where Casinos allow money to just flow out of their hands into yours? An island where physical truths that have been pored over and worked through and analysed for hundreds of years just turn out to be wrong? And you, with your $10 bankroll are just going to draw funds out to live on forever.
Stop posting dude, start reading the words and answers that you have pleaded for. We don't need to do your specific and simple maths questions to tell you that you are setting yourself up to bleed all your money to the casino, 50c or $1 or $10 or $100 at a time.
The casino is not a free cash dispenser (ATM) that gives you free money if you just hit the buttons to a sequence that you designed.
You are not that clever. They are not that dumb or generous.
I am expecting to lose I never said I plan on winning every time. I don't mind trying $10 a day for a luck to get $25 -$50
Quote: islandman4lifeI am expecting to lose I never said I plan on winning every time. I don't mind trying $10 a day for a luck to get $25 -$50
So, you'd be delighted to invest $10 every day of the year and end each month and each quarter and each year with less than you started with.... the occasional day or week you would have a profit for that day or week, but that gets reversed by days and weeks where you leave the casino with nothing?
No. You expect to win overall. That won't happen.?
I plan to play with 2 different casino houses if I lose 1 maybe I can win on the other.
That's called gambling for fun. I'm not knocking it.Quote: islandman4lifeI don't know if i expect to be a winner overall but I will try. I get nothing to lose "life" is the only thing I can lose.
I plan to play with 2 different casino houses if I lose 1 maybe I can win on the other.
It really doesn't matter. You should always just bet the best EV. The last hand has nothing to to with the next hand.Quote: islandman4lifeIf I get to $5 with the banker should I switch to player bet to get to $5 again or just always bet on banker for optimal bets?
>>Research gambler's fallacy before you even start.<<
Once you have an understanding of that and actually believe there's no way to beat a -EV game, you will have a better chance at not becoming addicted or doing something risky or dumb.
Embrace numbers and math, NOT voodoo and betting systems. If you can do that there's a chance you might actually be able to find and exploit a +EV situation. At minimum it may help you become a better and a reasonable gambler.
regular BaccaratQuote: islandman4lifeI am playing the regular baccarat I get $1.95 on banker bet of $1.
good
you can see for yourselfQuote: islandman4lifeSo you say it make sense to place the bet only on player?
when I play on WoO Bacc on player I do very well turning 10 units into 15
about 62 out of 100 tries (table looks good from here)
here it isQuote: islandman4lifeCan you please show the data thanks I would really appreciate that.
remember if you are trying to win $1 and win the 1st Banker bet you have gained only 95 cents and need another win to hit 100 cents
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that makes it very possible to go over your target and lower your chances
will not happen betting the Player
most hate betting the Player too
| start bank | unit gain | end bank | Player | Player Ruin | Banker | Banker Ruin | Fair | Fair Ruin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | 1 | 11 | 89.62% | 10.38% | 82.98% | 17.02% | 90.91% | 9.09% |
| 10 | 2 | 12 | 80.98% | 19.02% | 75.76% | 24.24% | 83.33% | 16.67% |
| 10 | 3 | 13 | 73.68% | 26.32% | 69.76% | 30.24% | 76.92% | 23.08% |
| 10 | 4 | 14 | 67.43% | 32.57% | 64.22% | 35.78% | 71.43% | 28.57% |
| 10 | 5 | 15 | 62.03% | 37.97% | 59.41% | 40.59% | 66.67% | 33.33% |
| 10 | 6 | 16 | 57.31% | 42.69% | 55.02% | 44.98% | 62.50% | 37.50% |
| 10 | 7 | 17 | 53.15% | 46.85% | 51.10% | 48.90% | 58.82% | 41.18% |
| 10 | 8 | 18 | 49.46% | 50.54% | 47.75% | 52.25% | 55.56% | 44.44% |
| 10 | 9 | 19 | 46.17% | 53.83% | 44.53% | 55.47% | 52.63% | 47.37% |
| 10 | 10 | 20 | 43.22% | 56.78% | 41.69% | 58.31% | 50.00% | 50.00% |
| 10 | 20 | 30 | 24.75% | 75.25% | 24.23% | 75.77% | 33.33% | 66.67% |
| 10 | 30 | 40 | 15.85% | 84.15% | 15.81% | 84.19% | 25.00% | 75.00% |
Sally
added:
here is a different goal/ruin table where the Banker bet only has to win 1 unit
so IF the bet is $20 and it wins the unit win = $19 and the goal is hit.
($1 pays 95 cents so the unit win = 95 cents)
that makes the Player bet a unit win also
| start bank | unit gain | Banker | Banker Ruin | Player | Player Ruin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | 1 | 87.16% | 12.84% | 89.62% | 10.38% |
| 10 | 2 | 78.08% | 21.92% | 80.98% | 19.02% |
| 10 | 3 | 71.05% | 28.95% | 73.68% | 26.32% |
| 10 | 4 | 65.19% | 34.81% | 67.43% | 32.57% |
| 10 | 5 | 60.32% | 39.68% | 62.03% | 37.97% |
| 10 | 6 | 55.91% | 44.09% | 57.31% | 42.69% |
| 10 | 7 | 52.18% | 47.82% | 53.15% | 46.85% |
| 10 | 8 | 48.72% | 51.28% | 49.46% | 50.54% |
| 10 | 9 | 45.78% | 54.22% | 46.17% | 53.83% |
| 10 | 10 | 43.01% | 56.99% | 43.22% | 56.78% |
| 10 | 20 | 25.52% | 74.48% | 24.75% | 75.25% |
| 10 | 30 | 16.84% | 83.16% | 15.85% | 84.15% |
Quote: islandman4lifeOk What if i put on $60 and bet $2.50 on player and martingale it out?
Kentry, is that you? Baccarat now?
By my data, 0.62^5 or 0.62^10 for PlayerQuote: islandman4lifeWhat is the probability of me getting to $5
5
or
10 times.
For example when I reach to $15 I take off $5 and repeat the process 5 or 10 times.
that = 0.0916132832 (about 1 in 11) for 5 times in a row ($25)
for 10 times in a row = 0.00839 (about 1 in 119) ($50)
(both dogs)
you should be able to do the Banker bet using the probability in the table I showed.
it looks boring unless you have a super-duper bet selection method that can win more often than on average.
that way you win over a lifetime of play and those haters will mean nothing as they do (due)
some love haters too
Sally
Quote: odiousgambitKentry, is that you? Baccarat now?
yes it doesQuote: AxelWolfThe last hand has nothing to to with the next hand.
you are not speaking the truth (medications can help)
the card removal effect applies to Baccarat too from a 6 or 8 deck shoe
the probabilities of a win does change as cards are removed from the shoe.
unless you can prove it does not
this is easy to understand for those that want to learn.
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for those that know it all
"life is hell" for many if not all
and nothing one can do to stop a (ANY)
Bacc player (like my Mom)
from being a lifetime winner at the game
using secret (her) bet selection methods at EZ Baccarat
Sally
IT'S AN ONLINE CASINO probably shuffled after each hand. There's no way to know. And even if we were talking about a real casino, we both know what he is getting at. It has nothing to do with counting or keeping track of what cards have been played. So he would be randomly guessing what side he should bet. In that case it could have a negative or positive effect and it doesn't matter enough to help him win or lose.Quote: mustangsallyyes it does
you are not speaking the truth (medications can help)
the card removal effect applies to Baccarat too from a 6 or 8 deck shoe
the probabilities of a win does change as cards are removed from the shoe.
unless you can prove it does not
this is easy to understand for those that want to learn.
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for those that know it all
"life is hell" for many if not all
and nothing one can do to stop a (ANY)
Bacc player (like my Mom)
from being a lifetime winner at the game
using secret (her) bet selection methods at EZ Baccarat
Sally
Again you try to mislead and confuse new players by using technicalities that are just confusing to them.
Perhaps you lack the ability to actually understand what people are asking.
Dear Once dear,Quote: OnceDearSo what?
Do you live on an island where the laws of mathematics are different? Where Casinos allow money to just flow out of their hands into yours? An island where physical truths that have been pored over and worked through and analysed for hundreds of years just turn out to be wrong? And you, with your $10 bankroll are just going to draw funds out to live on forever.
Stop posting dude, start reading the words and answers that you have pleaded for. We don't need to do your specific and simple maths questions to tell you that you are setting yourself up to bleed all your money to the casino, 50c or $1 or $10 or $100 at a time.
The casino is not a free cash dispenser (ATM) that gives you free money if you just hit the buttons to a sequence that you designed.
You are not that clever. They are not that dumb or generous.
you have been played. Too much typing in response to what seems a 'game'.
Just my take (10% ;-)
Can you actually count cards in Baccarat like you could in BJ?
If you want to bet thousands and make pennies.Quote: whodatAW,
Can you actually count cards in Baccarat like you could in BJ?
That's overstated but you get the point. If you had an honest online casino and the conditions were right there's a chance it might have some value. However you'll be doing mostly waiting and rarely betting.
But honestly I don't know enough about it because I never attempted it and don't know anyone close that has.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLDear Once dear,
you have been played. Too much typing in response to what seems a 'game'.
Just my take (10% ;-)
Yup!
