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November 9th, 2014 at 4:16:48 PM permalink
Space Jack is a bizarre blackjack variant that has been available at the Slotland Internet casino since 1998. I know people who lost very large amounts of money on it chasing the jackpot before they admitted it was not triggered by the natural deal of the cards.

Anyway, please check out my new page on Space Jack. As always, I welcome all comments, questions, and especially corrections.

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November 9th, 2014 at 4:39:39 PM permalink
few questions:

1. Is the base game (excluding the jackpot) based on a natural deal of the cards?
2. If the answer to 1 is "yes", what do they do if after shuffling the cards but before dealing, they determine that you would have a
natural three blackjacks? Sub in another hand?
3. if that's the case, then the base game is not dealt naturally and then your analysis is moot because who knows what the return is??
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November 9th, 2014 at 5:14:58 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

few questions:

1. Is the base game (excluding the jackpot) based on a natural deal of the cards?
2. If the answer to 1 is "yes", what do they do if after shuffling the cards but before dealing, they determine that you would have a
natural three blackjacks? Sub in another hand?
3. if that's the case, then the base game is not dealt naturally and then your analysis is moot because who knows what the return is??



1. I don't know, but I assume so, other than what they do if a jackpot should have been hit.
2. I don't know, but that is how I would do it, if I were prone to gaff the game.
3. Good point. However, with a probability of 0.01% for the jackpot, it doesn't matter too much what they do if a jackpot should have been hit.
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:22:46 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

1. I don't know, but I assume so, other than what they do if a jackpot should have been hit.
2. I don't know, but that is how I would do it, if I were prone to gaff the game.
3. Good point. However, with a probability of 0.01% for the jackpot, it doesn't matter too much what they do if a jackpot should have been hit.



Why are you giving them this publicity? They are cheating their customers. I believe in the past you you would have at best condemned them publicly and not given them a page about their game and at worst put them on the blacklist.


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November 10th, 2014 at 2:14:32 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Why are you giving them this publicity? They are cheating their customers. I believe in the past you you would have at best condemned them publicly and not given them a page about their game and at worst put them on the blacklist.



They are already on the blacklist for this reason. However, I agree that I should make that more clear.
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November 10th, 2014 at 5:00:29 AM permalink
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Space Jack is a bizarre blackjack variant . . .


Wow, that puts it mildly.

Even if the jackpot were fair, or there wasn't a jackpot, I wouldn't play it for fear my head would explode trying to figure out the best move.
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November 10th, 2014 at 6:25:05 PM permalink
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They are already on the blacklist for this reason. However, I agree that I should make that more clear.



The wording on the "Fourcast" article was great for this purpose. i would move the "Blacklist" note to the first line.
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November 10th, 2014 at 6:37:41 PM permalink
OK Mike You posted this twice on ODDS, but not once on VEGAS... Welcome To Fruita ! ! !

"Please note that all Slotland games which share the Progressive Jackpot also employ the same mechanism that determines the jackpot win. Therefore, the probability of hitting the jackpot combination on Space Jack is not natural but controlled by this shared random mechanism in the same way as slot machines' wins." — Space Jack rules
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