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December 25th, 2013 at 10:48:12 PM permalink
Question. Lets say you have Jj 66 and an ace what is the correct play if you know there is only one ace left or also if there are none left
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December 25th, 2013 at 11:27:05 PM permalink
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...3.) High Pair 99 to QQ: Play Ace with best non-pair to front, else split.



JJ66 + Ace

WoO indicates 0.3325 played as 66 + JJ and 0.3344 as JJ66 + Ace-8 (the 8 is the average rank of possibilities 3 to K: 5 below and 5 above)
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December 26th, 2013 at 12:02:30 PM permalink
Thanks I get that part my question is what is the edge if you know all the aces are gone or four of them are gine
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December 26th, 2013 at 12:16:23 PM permalink
The more Aces you know are gone, the better the edge for the A-anything being a successful play for a win, not just a push. The dealer would have to have 3oak or better in the back + a pair up top to beat that hand. 3 pair might beat it, but it would take K's AND Q's or the other J's as 2 of the three, just to start; otherwise the house way is always to play the highest pair up front, and unlikely the remaining lower 2 pair would beat J's in your hand and you would push at worst.
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January 11th, 2014 at 11:20:34 AM permalink
Agreed babs... thats why I like AAAA with a king as AAA + AK as opposed to a split. Crush a 2-pair or 1 pair, but have to push on the split 2-pair. It takes a Straight or Better + Pair to win.
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January 11th, 2014 at 11:31:04 AM permalink
Quote: 98Clubs

Agreed babs... thats why I like AAAA with a king as AAA + AK as opposed to a split. Crush a 2-pair or 1 pair, but have to push on the split 2-pair. It takes a Straight or Better + Pair to win.


Mathematically, this is a very poor way to play four aces. You're giving up approximately 17.38% if the dealer is banking, and 15.33% if you are banking.

The primary reason is because splitting the aces evenly gives you an unbeatable low hand (the dealer can't even copy it, whereas the Ace-King can be copied).
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January 11th, 2014 at 5:03:17 PM permalink
Are we able to infer equity just by using the WOO tables? I ask because I was playing while more than a little drunk, got dealt TTTT55x and thought it would be really clever if I set it TT55x - TT and I was wondering how much equity I gave away (I won the hand anyway, but when I woke up the next morning, I was all WTF)
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January 11th, 2014 at 7:26:43 PM permalink
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Are we able to infer equity just by using the WOO tables? I ask because I was playing while more than a little drunk, got dealt TTTT55x and thought it would be really clever if I set it TT55x - TT and I was wondering how much equity I gave away (I won the hand anyway, but when I woke up the next morning, I was all WTF)


You gave up between 4% and 6% of expected return depending on the house way, what rank the "x" was, and whether or not it was suited with one of the 5s.
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January 11th, 2014 at 7:45:33 PM permalink
Quote: JB

You gave up between 4% and 6% of expected return depending on the house way, what rank the "x" was, and whether or not it was suited with one of the 5s.



I can't see how the rank or suit of the x would affect this hand at all?
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January 11th, 2014 at 7:50:13 PM permalink
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