JIMMYFOCKER
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October 16th, 2013 at 10:37:17 AM permalink
How many numbers and what should the payout schedule be?
Buzzard
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October 16th, 2013 at 11:14:19 AM permalink
From the time keno commenced at Jupiter's Casino on the Gold Coast it took 12 years for someone to win the 10/10 jackpot.

The winning numbers were 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 and 40.
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teddys
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October 16th, 2013 at 11:40:51 AM permalink
I find the best payouts hover usually around the pick 4 -- sometimes up to the pick 5/6 or down to the pick 3. Use the Wizard's Keno calculator to calculate return. You can sometimes find payouts around 95-96%.
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JIMMYFOCKER
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October 16th, 2013 at 1:19:10 PM permalink
So a pick-4 is about the safest route?
teddys
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October 16th, 2013 at 1:31:12 PM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

So a pick-4 is about the safest route?

Pretty much but as always, check the paytable.
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98Clubs
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October 16th, 2013 at 6:19:18 PM permalink
Generally speaking for a possible "hit the top prize in one day" 4 of 4 is about limit. Depending on paytable it might be 100 for 1, or 80 for 1.
If I were to presume a 92-96% payout, a big hit might be a Pick-5. I've seen these as little as 200 for 1 up to 500 for 1. The key on pick-5 is 2 of 5 pays... no pay is usually a 500 for 1, when 2 of 5 pays (1) about best payoff is 250 for 1 on 5/5. Beware of the gimmick games, they abound.
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98Clubs
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October 16th, 2013 at 7:51:02 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

From the time keno commenced at Jupiter's Casino on the Gold Coast it took 12 years for someone to win the 10/10 jackpot.

The winning numbers were 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 and 40.

Live Keno... 6/hr * 23 hrs * 365 day * 12 yrs ~600,000 draws
at 10/hr ~ 1,000,000 draws (23 hrs to allow for acct.)
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Wizard
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October 16th, 2013 at 8:46:48 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I find the best payouts hover usually around the pick 4 -- sometimes up to the pick 5/6 or down to the pick 3. Use the Wizard's Keno calculator to calculate return. You can sometimes find payouts around 95-96%.

Hmm. I don't play much video keno, but I thought the returns were pretty consistent, except the pick-1. Yes, my calculator will give you the exact return for any pay table.
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CrystalMath
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October 16th, 2013 at 9:24:25 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Hmm. I don't play much video keno, but I thought the returns were pretty consistent, except the pick-2. Yes, my calculator will give you the exact return for any pay table.

When I design keno games, I don't care what the return on the 2 spot is as long as it's legal in the jurisdiction.

I like to play 4,7, or 10, because you will get the highest hit rate, at around 25%, but a lot of those pays will be pushes. If you want higher variance, try the 6 or 9.
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