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Wizard
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August 1st, 2013 at 5:29:56 PM permalink
Back in February somebody wrote to me alleging that the Powerball simulator on the Oklahoma Lottery web site was rigged in the players favor. He wrote that playing five tickets at a time he usually won the jackpot within a few tries.

So, I tried it myself. I played five rounds of five tickets each, without the PowerPlay option. Here are my results:

Tickets 1-5: $7 win
Tickets 6-10: $10,000 win
Tickets 11-15: $7 win
Tickets 16-20: $100 win
Tickets 21-25: Powerball jackpot win

For those of you not familiar with the Powerball jackpot, it is BIG. Currently at $290 million.

Letting players deliberately win in fun mode is something I've blacklisted online casinos for. In this case the bias is so obvious it is hard to take this demo seriously. Still, I think it is unethical for the Oklahoma Lottery to put a non-random game on their web site, which might lull weak-minded players into thinking they had a better chance to win than they really did.

Here are screenshots of my two big wins.





The question for the poll is do you think this is unethical?
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
gpac1377
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August 1st, 2013 at 5:37:43 PM permalink
Unethical but hilarious.
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rdw4potus
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August 1st, 2013 at 5:43:48 PM permalink
Wow, just played 5 tickets on each of 3 drawings. Won $10,000 each time. Why doesn't that ever happen in real life??

I don't know what to think about whether this is ethical. On the one hand, these results are insane. On the other hand, they do have the correct odds posted right on the page in normal sized font and in plain view.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
SoulChaser
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August 1st, 2013 at 5:58:03 PM permalink
I voted other. It clearly says it's for demo purposes only, maybe the thinking is, it explains how to win better??
reno
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August 1st, 2013 at 6:06:41 PM permalink
It's totally unethical, and a perfect illustration of why the government should not be in the lottery business. The lottery is a sucker bet. Do we really want the government encouraging its citizens to dump money into a sucker bet? The irony is that our public schools are dependent on ignorant gamblers losing money.
teddys
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August 1st, 2013 at 6:31:43 PM permalink
The office that I'm working in currently did a powerball pool. $4/per person. Everybody is a licensed attorney (!). I really did not want to throw in, but was pressured into it.

Jackpot is at $290m now.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
Ibeatyouraces
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August 1st, 2013 at 6:42:56 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Mission146
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August 1st, 2013 at 8:04:01 PM permalink
You suckers are wasting virtual money, I won $10,000 on one ticket!
Vultures can't be choosers.
Pokeraddict
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August 1st, 2013 at 9:16:41 PM permalink
I player 5 number combinations per ticket for ten draws. No numbers were duplicated. They were:

1-2-3-4-5 PB:1
8-9-10-11-12 PB:2
15-16-17-18-19 PB:3
23-24-25-26-27 PB:4
29-20-31-32-33 PB:5

My results:

1st drawing 5/5 no PB - $1 million
2nd drawing 3/5 yes PB - $100
3rd drawing 5/5 yes PB - Jackpot
4th drawing 5/5 yes PB - Jackpot
5th drawing 5/5 yes PB - Jackpot
6th drawing 4/5 no PB - $100
7th drawing 3/5 yes PB - $100
8th drawing 5/5 no PB - $1 million
9th drawing 5/5 no PB - $1 million
10th drawing 4/5 no PB - $100

Each card won. I came up with a 26 billion-1 shot or so there. The three jackpots in a row is roughly 22,000,000,000,000,000,000 -1 if my math is right but I am happy to yield the floor to better mathematicians here.
Pokeraddict
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August 1st, 2013 at 10:20:14 PM permalink
I just noticed that a player that hits just the Powerball has a 55-1 chance of winning. How is that possible if there are only 35 Powerballs? Does the standard Powerball have 35 Powerballs? Are the standard numbers 1-59 like the simulator shows?

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