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July 22nd, 2019 at 8:57:40 PM permalink
So apparently you are not allowed to use a virtual machine to access an online casino that they are partners with and they can ban you for as long as they please without question from the casino
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July 22nd, 2019 at 9:14:16 PM permalink
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So apparently you are not allowed to use a virtual machine to access an online casino that they are partners with and they can ban you for as long as they please without question from the casino



can you be more specific? I have no idea what you are saying.
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July 22nd, 2019 at 9:36:55 PM permalink
You should have checked the patent records.


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July 22nd, 2019 at 9:46:45 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

can you be more specific? I have no idea what you are saying.



my state has just got "intra-state" online gambling and every casino works with a company or relys on a company called geocomply, or another company which basically make an app on smartphones and windows machines to verify you are within the state that you aret trying to gamble in. in my case pennsylvania.

so the plugin detected that it was running in a virtual machine. a virtual machine is something that can run other types of software other that my current operating system (linux). linux can not natively understand and know how to run this plug that is required by the casinos in order to access the online part of their casinos.

so since i have a linux computer, the only way i can play online is to run the software in a virtual machine, which is apparently a bannable offense to them.

and to ZCore, there is not a single mention of virtual machines on their website yada yada
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July 22nd, 2019 at 9:49:42 PM permalink
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my state has just got "intra-state" online gambling and every casino works with a company or relys on a company called geocomply, or another company which basically make an app on smartphones and windows machines to verify you are within the state that you aret trying to gamble in. in my case pennsylvania.

so the plugin detected that it was running in a virtual machine. a virtual machine is something that can run other types of software other that my current operating system (linux). linux can not natively understand and know how to run this plug that is required by the casinos in order to access the online part of their casinos.

so since i have a linux computer, the only way i can play online is to run the software in a virtual machine, which is apparently a bannable offense to them.

and to ZCore, there is not a single mention of virtual machines on their website yada yada

link to the site please. From what I understand, many other regulated online casinos do in fact have this in their terms and conditions.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 22nd, 2019 at 10:11:26 PM permalink
A VM would be an easy way to get access out of state.
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July 22nd, 2019 at 10:52:06 PM permalink
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A VM would be an easy way to get access out of state.

please explain, privately if necessary.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 22nd, 2019 at 11:03:01 PM permalink
How does the software even know it's on a virtual machine on another machine?
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July 22nd, 2019 at 11:36:42 PM permalink
some states are interested in geofencing their casinos, so you gable from their lobby, hotel or bars, but not the casino.
Other states jut want to know that you are presently inside the state's boundaries.
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July 23rd, 2019 at 12:02:09 AM permalink
This PDF has the details of the geolocation requirements: GENERAL LOCATION FAQs

There is no mention of prohibiting virtual machines, but it would be difficult to configure a virtual machine with the hardware resources the application requires, such as access to the WiFi or GPS chipsets. There are also many restrictions on network configurations, such as use of VPNs and proxy services.

The application “knows” the location of where it is running by accessing the WiFi and/or GPS resources, plus checking to see that no location cloaking services such as a VPN are in play.

Linux platforms are not supported because that would be the best environment to use for defeating the application’s purpose.
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July 23rd, 2019 at 12:27:46 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

please explain, privately if necessary.



Disregard. I didn't think that all the way through.
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July 23rd, 2019 at 4:56:11 AM permalink
Oh I see. Yes so they are thinking you are using a VPN basically. I have had some problems with the geo location on my one laptop for some reason but my other ones are fine. Not sure why. Can you use your phone as a hotspot and just connect through your phone?
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July 23rd, 2019 at 9:46:07 AM permalink
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... Can you use your phone as a hotspot and just connect through your phone?

The short answer is “yes.” Read the document for the specific requirements that apply.
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