Online Games That We Can Make Money Regularly Are...
Also, what about other online games that we can regularly make a profit? The only thing I can think of is possibility sports / horse betting games.
Your thoughts?
Quote: sabreI think you're a spam bot in training.
Lol! Why do you think my questions are "dumb"? I'm new to online gambling...so forgive me.
Quote: JustALuckYour thoughts?
I think there is some rational explanation to the Dyatlov Pass incident, but I don't know what it is yet.
Quote: WizardI think there is some rational explanation to the Dyatlov Pass incident, but I don't know what it is yet.
I'm sorry I don't understand your reply. I looked up "Dyatlov Pass incident" and briefly scan the wikipedia article about it. I am not sure how that is related to OP?
Quote: JustALuck...Your thoughts?
In seriousness, nobody is going to give you an advantage play on a silver platter. If you broach a specific topic and give some thoughts of your own first, then I'll think you'll get some fish to bite and offer their thoughts. Forums are a two-way street. If you worry about your own side, traffic will come down it.
Quote: WizardI think there is some rational explanation to the Dyatlov Pass incident, but I don't know what it is yet.
I'm considering suspending you........ Your second reply to the OP is the kinder gentler Wiz we all know and love.......
To the OP........ there are a whole bunch of AP opportunities under the umbrella of "bonus chasing", that in theory can be nearly sure things. But this forum is littered with stories of players who 'took advantage' and have had their accounts cancelled, or just not paid.
Remember, even if you find a different opportunity that the math says gives you an advantage, you still need two things to happen. First, you need the game you are playing to not be rigged against you. Second, you need to be able to cash out.
Quote: JustALuck...Poker Games (playing against other players such as cash games, SnG, tournaments). As long as you're a skilled player better than other players at the table. Do you agree? If not, why not?
Also, what about other online games that we can regularly make a profit? The only thing I can think of is possibility sports / horse betting games.
Your thoughts?
Are you in the United States? It's a necessary question.
But if you are in the United States, betting horses is wide open. Not easy, just wide open.
Ahhh, if that's the case...here's my thought:
Since I'm no expert in AP, I'm open to your critique. I think online poker is possible to make money regularly... based on media everywhere (forums, poker news, poker leaderboard, etc) stating top online poker players make $x,xxx,xxx. Just by looking at online player ranking website (moderator, let me know if I can link to poker leaderboard website), at this time of writing, I see top 3 players made estimated profit last 120 days are:
Player #1: $1,017,239
Player #2: $717,986
Player #3: $505,694
One of top horse racing bettor, Zeljko Ranogajec makes $1 billion yearly.
One of top sports bettor, Billy Walters is net worth of $200 million.
I do not know if horse racing & sports betting is possible to profit regularly through online sportsbook.
@SOOPOO
Thanks for your insights!
@bobbartop
Yes, I'm located in San Diego county, California. Yes, it looks like based off my research the world most successful gamblers (in net worth) are horse bettors. However, is that possible through online sportsbook?
Source?
Quote: HunterhillI doubt Zeljko makes 1billion per year,I know he is quite succesful but that seems a bit high.
Source?
I sent you a link via private message since I do not know if I'm allowed to post a web link on this forum.
Quote: JustALuckI sent you a link via private message since I do not know if I'm allowed to post a web link on this forum.
You can post it.
Quote: HunterhillI doubt Zeljko makes 1billion per year,I know he is quite succesful but that seems a bit high.
Source?
Wikipedia: "Zeljko Ranogajec (born 1961) is a professional gambler from Australia, with an annual, global betting turnover that is claimed to be over $1 billion." (Emphasis mine, and, yes, wiki isn't an authoritative source...)
It's like that article from a year or two ago where this woman was embezzling government funds and lost like 600 million. (She did, however, win about 580 million, so she ACTUALLY only lost the 20m that was stolen.)
Quote: JustALuckHere's another source. Dunno if it is an authoritative source.
"He is said to account for 6-8% of the turnover of Tabcorp, with his outlays reportedly as much as $1 billion annually."
Same thing; he bets over 1b/year, not winning that. Comparing it to "In 2008, Ranogajec took his bookmaker to court and revealed that his syndicate had won more than $44 million betting on US racing over a three-and-a-half-year period." from the same article suggests his annual winnings are considerably more modest.
Quote: sabreI think you're a spam bot in training.
Not really. He has been on here for three years not three minutes. ;)
Quote: JustALuck
@bobbartop
Yes, I'm located in San Diego county, California. Yes, it looks like based off my research the world most successful gamblers (in net worth) are horse bettors. However, is that possible through online sportsbook?
Gosh, you're living in paradise, literally. A gazillion casinos within driving distance. A few private card rooms still there. Del Mar down the road. I haven't been to Caliente in years, don't know what's going on there now. TJ might be more dangerous now than when I frequented the track, and sports betting.
But horses are hassle-free in this country now, just like all online gambling was 15 years ago. No problem moving money in and out. For myself, personally, I'm into horse body language and you can get the complete Show on the net. But if I lived near Del Mar, like I used to, that's where I'd be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT9MITGrcFk
Quote: JustALuckSince I'm no expert in AP, I'm open to your critique. I think online poker is possible to make money regularly... based on media everywhere (forums, poker news, poker leaderboard, etc) stating top online poker players make $x,xxx,xxx. Just by looking at online player ranking website (moderator, let me know if I can link to poker leaderboard website), at this time of writing, I see top 3 players made estimated profit last 120 days are:
Player #1: $1,017,239
Player #2: $717,986
Player #3: $505,694
One of top horse racing bettor, Zeljko Ranogajec makes $1 billion yearly.
You could do that in any business -- look at the top few people in it and mistake that for an average income of everybody in it. I assure that online poker is a tough way to make money. Every poker site is infested with sharks. Yes, I know, you'll be a shark among sharks, everybody thinks that. I'll just say that these poker sites wouldn't be making money if everyone were an above average player. It is impossible for everyone to be above average.
Quote:One of top sports bettor, Billy Walters is net worth of $200 million.
There we go again. Just because one guy, who I think is in jail, is worth $200 million doesn't mean every sports book lizard is worth that much.
Quote:Yes, I'm located in San Diego county, California. Yes, it looks like based off my research the world most successful gamblers (in net worth) are horse bettors.
With a 17% rake, horses are a tough way to make money. It's funny how everybody who bets horses claims to be a winning player and yet still the tracks finds a way to take 17%. Where are all the losers?
SOOPOO mentioned chasing Internet bonsues. That is the easiest way to go, in my opinion.
Quote: JustALuck... based on media everywhere (forums, poker news, poker leaderboard, etc) stating top online poker players make $x,xxx,xxx. Just by looking at online player ranking website (moderator, let me know if I can link to poker leaderboard website), at this time of writing, I see top 3 players made estimated profit last 120 days are:
Player #1: $1,017,239
Player #2: $717,986
Player #3: $505,694
Make sure you are not confusing poker earnings or payouts with poker profit and loss. Most poker leaderboards report payouts or earnings with no regard to tournament entry fees. If you pay $1000 to enter a tournament and bust out before making the money (which happens the majority of the time) your earnings are reported to be $0.00 rather than -$1,000. Similarly, if you pay $4,000 to enter a tournament and earn a payout of $10,000 your earnings are reported on leaderboards to be $10,000, even though your profit was only $6,000.
Quote: Wizard
With a 17% rake, horses are a tough way to make money. It's funny how everybody who bets horses claims to be a winning player and yet still the tracks finds a way to take 17%. Where are all the losers?
The few winners I know work VERY hard at it. They live it. They know their horses, they know their trainers, they know their jockeys. They are IN the paddock, at the walking ring, they are watching them come in from the gap. They keep meticulous notes on "physicality". Horses are not machines. The main difference between horsey tells and poker tells is that poker players go opposite, you have to figure out what they really mean when they are lying, generally. But horses are very honest. They tell you how they feel, if you can speak Horse. Football handicappers should be so lucky to know which players don't feel so spiffy on game day. Horses will tell you.
You asked where are all the losers? They're waiting for their checks. Same as poker. What would the floor of Commerce look like if there was no First of the Month?
OK Kyle, that just about convinces me that you are nothing but a spammer promoting your own app. This site does not permit spammers to use the site as their own personal billboard, unless they wish to pay for advertising space.Quote: KyleYoManIf youre in US the best way is try to win in lottery, many of us here is now using some result calculator lol. example L******A
So, I've consulted with Wizard with a view to banning you and redacting all your promotional posts.
In the meantime, DO NOT mention or rave about that app any more.
[edit]On further investigation. Kyleyoman is a duplicate id of a previously banned member and is therefore banned for life[/edit]
Quote: JustALuckAs long as you're a skilled player better than other players at the table.
How do you know that you are the best player at the table?
