JoelDeze
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September 18th, 2016 at 4:31:32 PM permalink
I generally play blackjack on mobile if I do online games. I wager between $1 and $6 per hand. I've noticed that I encounter strange results between session expires and reloading of the game.

I play basic strategy with no insurance.

Here are some funky numbers:

Last week (I monitor all hands) during a session I went:

56 wins, 8 losses, 3 pushes (made $164).

I had 16 wins in a row so thought the damn game was broken and kept hitting $6 wagers (I didn't want to raise my bet and change the algorithm).

A couple of days later I went back and the session was old and reloaded.

I went 6 wins, 32 losses, 8 pushes and stopped.

I went back a day later and the session reloaded.

I went 4 wins, 12 losses, 2 pushes and stopped.

I waited until last night and went back and the session did not reload.

I went 5 wins, 26 losses, 5 pushes and stopped.

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I did min on the final two losing sessions. But, is this normal online blackjack behavior? Or, is this site just using flawed software?

I have almost no experience with online table games so just trying to find out whether it's just this site or whether most sites are this bad. I prefer live casino table games but just don't have much time now (during football season) to go to Twin River.

Thoughts?
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OnceDear
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September 18th, 2016 at 4:50:22 PM permalink
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Thoughts?


Website strikes me as well dodgy. They have an 'about us' page that tells you nothing about them! No contact address. No phone number. No regulatory details. Their terms and conditions contain none of the usual legalese and even there it is not revealed who 'they' are.
[edit]OK I see the phone numbers but not on the 'about us' page where it belongs.
I wouldn't touch them with your barge-pole.
Game results seemed squiffy to. I doubt you would have seen your winnings if you tried to check out early in that winning streak.

Wow. they have this page to tell you how to play...
http://www.bookmaker.eu/how-to-play/blackjack

I got a server error first time. an nginx 500 error. schoolboy error for anyone into tech ops. Not something you expect on a live real money gaming site.

Their rng free play blackjack is written in aspx which, if you are familiar with the computer language 'BASIC' you would probably know the programming structure from 20 years ago and could knock out in an afternoon. Also the blackjack I played there had a 'clear' button. How f'ing lame is that. It screams out as shoddy.

Oh... and they are based in Costa Rica.



edit
HOLY SHIT!!!!
I just clicked a 'help page' on their Blackjack game. It was dated 2007 and it directly linked to a WizardofOdds page for a description of the rules !!!

http://freecasinogames.bookmaker.eu/Casino/aspNET/Help/index.html?page=_Blackjack.html
Last edited by: OnceDear on Sep 18, 2016
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AxelWolf
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:51:29 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

I generally play blackjack on mobile if I do online games. I wager between $1 and $6 per hand. I've noticed that I encounter strange results between session expires and reloading of the game.

I play basic strategy with no insurance.

Here are some funky numbers:

Last week (I monitor all hands) during a session I went:

56 wins, 8 losses, 3 pushes (made $164).

I had 16 wins in a row so thought the damn game was broken and kept hitting $6 wagers (I didn't want to raise my bet and change the algorithm).

A couple of days later I went back and the session was old and reloaded.

I went 6 wins, 32 losses, 8 pushes and stopped.

I went back a day later and the session reloaded.

I went 4 wins, 12 losses, 2 pushes and stopped.

I waited until last night and went back and the session did not reload.

I went 5 wins, 26 losses, 5 pushes and stopped.

------------------

I did min on the final two losing sessions. But, is this normal online blackjack behavior? Or, is this site just using flawed software?

I have almost no experience with online table games so just trying to find out whether it's just this site or whether most sites are this bad. I prefer live casino table games but just don't have much time now (during football season) to go to Twin River.

Thoughts?

If this is for real money (I Assume it is) You should quickly delete your post remain silent and investigate further, I would bet there's a way to exploit the situation.

I have found glitches online that were highly exploitable. I was able to predict a .5 VP double up with about 90% accuracy. I showed 2 independent people and my GF. It only lasted for a day and was fixed. To my surprise I was paid.

I found a slot bonus that was paying 8x-10x the amount it should've been each time, Or it worked off some type of a bonus pool somehow, perhaps someone was pumping it up while betting $100+a spin or something. At first I just thought I was just super lucky when I received $100 in the bonus round betting a total of .25. But I kept getting high amounts for many hours I played it until I couldn't stay awake anymore. Woke up the next afternoon and sure enough the bonus rounds were playing an average of $10. I spent weeks checking each game often to see if there was anything else going on.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:56:40 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If this is for real money (I Assume it is) You should quickly delete your post remain silent and investigate further, I would bet there's a way to exploit the situation.

I have found glitches online that were highly exploitable. I was able to predict a .5 VP double up with about 90% accuracy. I showed 2 independent people and my GF. It only lasted for a day and was fixed. To my surprise I was paid.

I found a slot bonus that was paying 8x-10x the amount it should've been each time, Or it worked off some type of a bonus pool somehow, perhaps someone was pumping it up while betting $100+a spin or something. At first I just thought I was just super lucky when I received $100 in the bonus round betting a total of .25. But I kept getting high amounts for many hours I played it until I couldn't stay awake anymore. Woke up the next afternoon and sure enough the bonus rounds were playing an average of $10. I spent weeks checking each game often to see if there was anything else going on.


Axel,
I can tell you that the online BlackJack has all the hallmarks of being VERY OLD and badly written code.
I would concur that there is a decent chance that its shoddiness could be exploited.

Let's take this to PM.
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September 18th, 2016 at 6:11:05 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Axel,
I can tell you that the online BlackJack has all the hallmarks of being VERY OLD and badly written code.
I would concur that there is a decent chance that its shoddiness could be exploited.

Let's take this to PM.

Available to USA? Also lets make sure if someone new does make an account we use the refer a friend links. probably need to see if they are reputable.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 18th, 2016 at 6:21:09 PM permalink
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Available to USA?

LOL. Costa Rica based. They make a big song and dance in their FAQof never telling anything to any government organisations. Laughably crooked looking.
Quote:

Do I have to pay taxes on my winnings?
BookMaker does not, and will not, provide any details regarding your BookMaker account to any third party. It is completely your decision to declare winnings or losses to the proper authorities in your tax jurisdiction.


Their sign up form defaults to USA $:o)
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September 18th, 2016 at 6:27:27 PM permalink
JoelDeze,

Before we get too excited.
Can you confirm that all those wagers were for real money?
Is the Real Money Blackjack the same as their remarkably feature poor, absolute shit graphics and user interface, joke of their 'Free' blackjack games.

Axel,
They run an affiliate network. Not sure WOV is a member.

Incidentally, see how they deep link to WOO content from their 2007 vintage blackjack rules page?
http://freecasinogames.bookmaker.eu/Casino/aspNET/Help/_BJVariations.html

Laughably Lame
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JoelDeze
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September 18th, 2016 at 6:40:26 PM permalink
Real money.

I have also cashed out on sports wagers from them several times. I use them for early week wagers when I don't want to travel.

I cashed out $3k last year.

So they do pay.

http://www.bookmaker.eu/miniblackjack-html5.aspx?device=mobile

That's the URL that pops up on mobile.
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September 18th, 2016 at 6:42:19 PM permalink
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Real money.

I have also cashed out on sports wagers from them several times. I use them for early week wagers when I don't want to travel.

I cashed out $3k last year.

So they do pay.


Joel, Taking this to Private Messaging. Read what Axel and I wrote above ;o)
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