rajarolet
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March 9th, 2019 at 7:11:15 AM permalink
The promotion is called “bonus rollingan” in my language
Still not figure out how to beat baccarat other than banker flat bet @1.3% return
kelvin
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October 19th, 2019 at 12:11:50 AM permalink
I have one casino offering 1% turnover commision for baraccat.Can bet on player and banker in the same round.How do i take advantage of it?
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October 19th, 2019 at 3:37:48 AM permalink
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I have one casino offering 1% turnover commision for baraccat.Can bet on player and banker in the same round.How do i take advantage of it?

Hi, and welcome to the forum.
1% is nice but it won't defeat the house edge. No way. Just enjoy the slight extension to your playing time.
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
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October 19th, 2019 at 5:08:35 AM permalink
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1% is nice but it won't defeat the house edge..

Whittling it down a bit is still fun. good luck.
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October 19th, 2019 at 12:14:49 PM permalink
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It's just something I do to break up the boredom of flat betting Blackjack. It's far less aggressive than Martingale. Bankroll ebbs and flows.

E.g. buy in 100
Wager 1, If that loses wager 2. If that loses, wager 3, if that loses keep wagering 3 until I have a win.
At any win, reset to wagering 1.

Or I might do it with $5 unit so it becomes 5,10,15,15,15
If I'm in the mood to wager bigger, it might be 25,50, 75,75,75 But I'm not really inclined to throw money away so dramatically, very often.

But to extend my play time, if my session roll gets depleted, I limit each wager to 10% of what i have left.


interesting.. you increase your bet on loses and reset back to original on a win.

i do the opposite.
i press when i win, and reset back to original on a loss.
ie: 10,15,20,25,30,40,50, etc

which one is better for bankroll conservation? ie: longer play time
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October 19th, 2019 at 1:03:21 PM permalink
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interesting.. you increase your bet on loses and reset back to original on a win.

i do the opposite.
i press when i win, and reset back to original on a loss.
ie: 10,15,20,25,30,40,50, etc

which one is better for bankroll conservation? ie: longer play time

I don't know which is better. I've tried something like your way. It just feels so different. If you plot rolling bankroll as a chart for my way, you'll see an upward staircase punctuated by deep dips. Plot it your way and you'll get repeated downward staircases punctuated by big leaps. Whatever feels best on the day, I guess.
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
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October 19th, 2019 at 1:23:50 PM permalink
If you tend to win at Baccarat, play that game with this little added bonus. If you don't tend to win at Baccarat, don't play it because this little rebate is not going to affect your outcome much, if at all.

When I play Baccarat my final outcome per session has nothing to do with the house edge. I could be playing a Baccarat with zero commission and the way I play the game the end outcome would not be any different: I either win big, or I walk with as small a loss as possible.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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October 19th, 2019 at 8:39:33 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

I don't know which is better. I've tried something like your way. It just feels so different. If you plot rolling bankroll as a chart for my way, you'll see an upward staircase punctuated by deep dips. Plot it your way and you'll get repeated downward staircases punctuated by big leaps.
Whatever feels best on the day, I guess.


thinking about the 2 pressing strategies more, i figure your way is better because we're playing a slightly -EV game. (3:2 blackjack, ultimate texas holdem)
being -EV, you're going to lose more hands than win.
so pressing on the loss makes more sense??
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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October 20th, 2019 at 3:00:43 AM permalink
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thinking about the 2 pressing strategies more, i figure your way is better because we're playing a slightly -EV game. (3:2 blackjack, ultimate texas holdem)
being -EV, you're going to lose more hands than win.
so pressing on the loss makes more sense??

I feel a graph coming on... I really don't know which way it will go.... Apart from bankroll trending downwards in both cases.
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
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October 20th, 2019 at 8:41:12 AM permalink
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When I play Baccarat my final outcome per session has nothing to do with the house edge.



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