darkoz
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:30:07 PM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

It is a GREY area. But the casino is not going to pursue it in courts.



It is actually not a grey area

Most jurisdictions have laws against using other people's "access devices" i.e. credit cards, casino cards or any device that gives you access to another persons account

I have not seen one access device law that did not SPECIFY it was when use was without permission of the card beneficiary.

Otherwise if you gave your wife your credit card to make a purchase she could be indicted for credit card fraud.

The law is pretty cut and dried. Nothing grey under the law.
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heatmap
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:47:14 PM permalink
never meant to imply anything you were doing was illegal. as i have already tried doing it but i didnt know enough people and only had one casino to test it on. the people who used the cards wanted to use them and didnt want to give up their hard earned stuff.

to me its simple. their is one goal. convert whatever is on the card into cash. and whatever ways you can set that up thats where the legalities might come into play depending on the type of person you are.

personally i dont care what "type" of person anyone else besides myself is. i think this card thing needs to be looked at in all ways not necessarily by myself but for the curious.
darkoz
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January 21st, 2019 at 5:30:51 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

never meant to imply anything you were doing was illegal. as i have already tried doing it but i didnt know enough people and only had one casino to test it on. the people who used the cards wanted to use them and didnt want to give up their hard earned stuff.

to me its simple. their is one goal. convert whatever is on the card into cash. and whatever ways you can set that up thats where the legalities might come into play depending on the type of person you are.

personally i dont care what "type" of person anyone else besides myself is. i think this card thing needs to be looked at in all ways not necessarily by myself but for the curious.



I understand

The methods I use to get offers are completely legal as well. No employee collusion or uploading manipulating
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Mission146
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January 21st, 2019 at 8:12:51 PM permalink
Good thread, Iíve written about a few of these in various News & Notes as theyíve come up.

As far as DarkOz or any Forum Member that I know of is concerned, this is NOT what they are talking about. I can also assure you nobody doing anything anywhere along these lines would even HINT at it publicly, unless incredibly stupid. People on the inside, manipulating the system directly in one way or another...not only is that NOT AP, itís not even gambling. Itís just straight fraud and theft.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219

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