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MrV
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April 10th, 2021 at 4:55:44 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

It's NOT personal, but honestly, most people who believe in DI just are NOT that SMART.



Indeed.

They are to craps tables as jail is to criminals: just a place to keep them out of the mainstream population so they don't get in the way of real progress.
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AlanMendelson
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April 11th, 2021 at 9:51:09 AM permalink
Dice influencing exists and we all do it. We influence the dice in stages of skill.

The first skill is keeping both dice on the table. It amazes me how many players cant do this.

Other skills include hitting the back wall while keeping both dice on the table.

More advanced skills include hitting the back wall, keeping both dice on the table, and a short bounce back.

More advanced skills include keeping the dice on axis, limiting the number of rotations, and keeping the dice parallel and traveling together.

Control? No one controls dice. Every bounce eliminates control. But just having multiple stages of influence gives you hope for a better result.

Would you play blackjack if you're not trying to count cards? Why play craps if you're not trying to influence the dice... at least to the point of keeping both dice on the table, hitting the back wall and limiting the bounces thereafter.
ChumpChange
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April 11th, 2021 at 10:54:57 AM permalink
Real Live Casino Craps Game - Color Up in Colorado - 45 roll monster hand, $100 table max
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egShVicO5Jw
SOOPOO
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April 11th, 2021 at 6:08:57 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson



Control? No one controls dice. Every bounce eliminates control. But just having multiple stages of influence gives you hope for a better result.



No it doesn’t.
sabre
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April 11th, 2021 at 6:15:33 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

But just having multiple stages of influence gives you hope for a better result.



No.
Chapz
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April 11th, 2021 at 6:26:51 PM permalink
The whole point of this thread is to illustrate that we now have an onslaught of youtube videos uploaded by so called dice controllers and yet they don't show they have any advantage over non dice influencers. Sure it's a small sample (however growing by the day) but you do see similar trends in all the videos.

The youtube videos are entertaining but they don't establish that all their practicing have benefited them in any way.
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AlanMendelson
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April 11th, 2021 at 7:57:29 PM permalink
Quote: Chapz

The whole point of this thread is to illustrate that we now have an onslaught of youtube videos uploaded by so called dice controllers and yet they don't show they have any advantage over non dice influencers. Sure it's a small sample (however growing by the day) but you do see similar trends in all the videos.

The youtube videos are entertaining but they don't establish that all their practicing have benefited them in any way.



Not one of the videos I've seen, including Ahigh's many videos, show anything close to a dice throw that limits the bounce and rotation of the dice. They are nothing but random throws.

The few people who can influence dice to limit bounce and rotation do not have public videos. They'd be crazy to do it.

Personally I've seen in person only three such shooters in more than 30 years of playing craps.
ChumpChange
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April 11th, 2021 at 8:07:50 PM permalink
Watching a couple of Don't players throwing on a super bouncy table with a second camera on the other end to catch the throws (but they should have zoomed it out a little bit).

REAL TABLE CRAPS GAME! FINALLY TESTING SKILLS ON A PRIVATE TABLE AT THE PLAZA CASINO IN VEGAS! 🤩 - God of Gambling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLZxHh2CX0
daveyandersen1
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April 23rd, 2021 at 6:37:48 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Watching a couple of Don't players throwing on a super bouncy table with a second camera on the other end to catch the throws (but they should have zoomed it out a little bit).

REAL TABLE CRAPS GAME! FINALLY TESTING SKILLS ON A PRIVATE TABLE AT THE PLAZA CASINO IN VEGAS! 🤩 - God of Gambling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLZxHh2CX0

I've seen almost every video from god of gambling HE's no dice influencer.. In fact I don't see any of these you tube LIVE GAME VIDEOS showing any influence of DI at all ...They are kind of fun to watch just to pretend I'm there gambling.. the table is so bouncy it would drive me nuttier than i already am...
daveyandersen1
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April 23rd, 2021 at 6:41:31 PM permalink
Allan Mendelson has got to be referring to THE DOMINATOR from golden touch..

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