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Chapz
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December 30th, 2020 at 4:54:45 PM permalink
There's been an onslaught of youtube videos of live craps tables recently due to some casinos now allowing it to be filmed. Some are shared by dice setters. What I noticed from these video samples is the random rollers did just a well if not better than these so called dice setters.

The dice influence debate is over. Video proof is being uploaded on a weekly basis and proving it doesn't help you win more.

P.S. Am I allowed to post the videos?
AxelWolf
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December 30th, 2020 at 5:36:08 PM permalink
Quote: Chapz

There's been an onslaught of youtube videos of live craps tables recently due to some casinos now allowing it to be filmed. Some are shared by dice setters. What I noticed from these video samples is the random rollers did just a well if not better than these so called dice setters.

The dice influence debate is over. Video proof is being uploaded on a weekly basis and proving it doesn't help you win more.

P.S. Am I allowed to post the videos?

I think DI is bunk either way, however, I don't think videos showing results is a good measure, especially since videos can be cherry picked.

We would have to find a few people who the DI crowd are convinced are the best and have them roll a significant amount of rolls. That would end the debate one way or the other. OR JUST WATCH SOME SLOW MOTION VIDEOS.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
DJTeddyBear
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December 31st, 2020 at 5:16:57 AM permalink
Quote: Chapz

P.S. Am I allowed to post the videos?

As a new user here, your options may be limited.

However, videos can be imbedded in posts rather easily with YouTube tags:
[youtube=____]
Just fill in the video痴 ID number.
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ChumpChange
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December 31st, 2020 at 5:54:46 AM permalink
I saw one video of Hawaiian sharpshooters who were going to have a long rollers tournament. They didn't fare well on camera, subject to the same point 7-outs as the rest of us. But they were supposed to play through the weekend and the top winners were expected to roll between 40 to 70 rolls on a turn.
Chapz
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December 31st, 2020 at 8:09:51 AM permalink
My pet peeve with DIs is their condescending attitude with random rollers. They pull their bets or go on the darkside once they identify a random roller. All these live videos do is expose them for not being any better than a random roller.

To be fair, most of the DIs that upload their live videos aren't instructors or selling a school or program. I don't think a program selling DI would dare post a live session in a casino for the public to view.
TomG
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December 31st, 2020 at 1:34:43 PM permalink
I always assumed "dice setters" were "random rollers". If my assumption is wrong, there has never been a good piece of evidence to dispute it.
ChumpChange
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December 31st, 2020 at 1:49:57 PM permalink
Don't hop the 7's if it's not a come out roll, unless you have over $10,000 in chips and you can't think to tip the dealers.
Chapz
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December 31st, 2020 at 4:32:10 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

I always assumed "dice setters" were "random rollers". If my assumption is wrong, there has never been a good piece of evidence to dispute it.




Dice setters are easily fooled by randomness.
pwcrabb
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December 31st, 2020 at 11:34:44 PM permalink
A significant test of Dice Inflluence must include a large sample of dice rolls. I would insist upon a minimum of 3600 rolls. No such video would be endurable.

A combination of wishful thought, determined effort, and clustered random favorable outcomes provides fertile ground for selective memory.
"I suppose I was mad. Every great genius is mad upon the subject in which he is greatest. The unsuccessful madman is disgraced and called a lunatic." Fitz-James O'Brien, The Diamond Lens (1858)
ChumpChange
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January 1st, 2021 at 12:47:29 PM permalink
Dice Influencers may only shoot 7's on the come-out and their turn never ends.

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