sammydv
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March 19th, 2019 at 10:10:42 AM permalink
@noktang.
I think fleastiff said it best. Time is money. And wasting time playing with the dice is wasting money for the casino. And other people.
As annoying as the guy in the foursome taking 15 practice swings and he's a 27 handicap. But the casino is losing money by losing time.
Casino discourage it not because they believe it works, but because they know the screwing around wastes their money making time.

fleastiff:
"Seriously, casinos just want the dice to be in motion, they don't care if there is some weird setting going on as long as its done instantly. Casinos do not want the song, dance or delay of dice setters.

A decision to keep the game moving is not an endorsement of the existence of dice setting skills. Heck even dice setters admit they often roll losing results, The house just wants their house edge to apply and it doesn't apply during someone's exaggerated song and dance."
SM777
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March 19th, 2019 at 10:24:56 AM permalink
Quote: onebok

Since Ahigh and others, including myself, who have considerable knowledge and experience with DI, have shared practical info on this thread, Nickolay might be interested, since he says he is making a film on gambling and goes to far away places like Macau to game.

Is there something you were trying to illuminate with your comment?



I was answering the subject of the thread, you know the question "Does dice setting work?"

That's how forums work, right?
worldhistoryguy
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April 5th, 2019 at 4:47:37 PM permalink
I sooooooo agree. Watching some of the "setters" is quite amusing - especially when they 7 out with zilch bet on the dont's.
Ahigh
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May 5th, 2019 at 10:20:54 AM permalink
Quote: worldhistoryguy

I sooooooo agree. Watching some of the "setters" is quite amusing - especially when they 7 out with zilch bet on the dont's.



"You bet" ... <chuckle>

I played craps every day for seven years. I learned quite a bit about this game, as I expect that Wizard himself would acknowledge.

You don't see me selling my knowledge. People buy lies. The best profit margins are the monetization of lies.

Anyone expecting positive returns on the game of craps has bought into (some kind of) lie.

I never purchased information on how to beat craps in any way shape or form.

I did my own homework, and I was head and shoulders above the next person looking at objective truths about how to beat the game.

The game can certainly be beaten and people have done it.

But assuming you are going to legally beat the game, the probability is low that if you are setting dice you are doing it for any reason BESIDES trying to affect what someone is thinking about you. And if you're setting dice oblivious to what people are thinking about you (especially if you're thinking you're cool) the chances are really slim you're going to win long-term. You're buying your ego, just like people playing Game of War and Mobile Strike. 97% play for free and the three percent that pay ANYTHING are just buying their ego's while playing in public releasing dopamine as other people playing the game say things to make them feel good.
lilredrooster
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May 5th, 2019 at 11:11:46 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

The game can certainly be beaten and people have done it.




can you please explain, elaborate on how this is done. thanks
𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘵: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳 𝘭𝘰𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵............. ᴍᴀʀᴋ ᴛᴡᴀɪɴ
Lovecomps
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May 5th, 2019 at 11:23:48 AM permalink
Oh for goodness sake can't we put this topic to bed already? Speaking as a former dealer, it doens't work.

Dice swapping does work-just don't get caught :-)
The best things in life are not free.
lilredrooster
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May 5th, 2019 at 11:36:01 AM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Oh for goodness sake can't we put this topic to bed already? Speaking as a former dealer, it doens't work.




I've read several of Ahigh's posts and I consider him to be an expert worth listening to.

sorry but I want to hear what he has to say
𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘵: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳 𝘭𝘰𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵............. ᴍᴀʀᴋ ᴛᴡᴀɪɴ
DeMango
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May 5th, 2019 at 12:26:20 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

can you please explain, elaborate on how this is done. thanks


Roll more sevens on the comeout.
Roll less sevens on the point cycle.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
pwcrabb
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May 5th, 2019 at 1:13:13 PM permalink
What AHigh has discovered on his own cannot be summarized by trite truisms, so please do not indulge. What he could say is not available anywhere in print or online. For very good reasons, what he knows he keeps to himself. He has never denied negative expectations or the many other cold facts of casino craps. I doubt that his methods involve illegalities such as dice switching. Best Wishes to him.

Dice setting is comprised of objective and mechanistic techniques to attempt to overcome objective and mathematical realities. In theory only, one could achieve mastery over the innumerable variables involved in tossing dice against fixed randomizers. Following our fearless Wizard, do not bet money on anyone actually doing so.

Subjective techniques invoking psychokinesis or precognition have been explored by some intrepid souls. Publications are available. I have no recommendation.
"I suppose I was mad. Every great genius is mad upon the subject in which he is greatest. The unsuccessful madman is disgraced and called a lunatic." Fitz-James O'Brien, The Diamond Lens (1858)
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May 5th, 2019 at 2:48:36 PM permalink
Quote: pwcrabb


Subjective techniques invoking psychokinesis or precognition have been explored by some intrepid souls. Publications are available. I have no recommendation.



If you have any talent for precognition then you don't need to screw around with dice setting. All of Las Vegas is yours for the taking.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.

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