request for a video of dice influence
Thanks, I agree this is about seeing where we as individuals can take it...Even if there was one perfect roll which
could be proven to beat the house advantage.. no one else could throw it except that person. we all are so different.
That is what makes this so much fun.... just to see what you can do....
So many people just expect everyone else to do, and then when others try they cut them down because their proof
is not good enough. I give Ahigh tons of credit for all the work he put in. We are looking for different things, but he
worked very hard.
diceswetter
That's rude, I not cutting down your work. I actually said your shot looks more consistent and less bouncy than many others I have seen, so kudos.Quote: dicesitterAxelwolf in other words you have nothing to say, your just running your month. You cut the
work of others down and offer nothing of your own.. that is what I figured.
dicesetter
I guess I was assuming you were claiming you had enough influence to gain a long term advantage in the casinos using DI.
I have a personal interest in DI, if it's possible for someone to gain a long term advantage, I want to know. In the mean time I feel bad for all the suckers getting ripped off or chasing an unattainable dream, while justifying all the losing. Unfortunately I have had friends get caught up in this with bad consequences.
Personally I'm not interested in something that can't overcame the HA. Unless I see at least a 1/2 percent advantage I'm not interested (less if the mail is incredible)
I can find legitimate verified +EV on $25 denomination video poker with extras.
Give me a break.....
That's rude, I not cutting down your work. I actually said your shot looks more consistent and less bouncy than many others I have seen, so kudos.
You did not ask a single question about anything I showed you, none... if you "were" interested there were a number of items
you could have asked such as if you find influence in your throws can you associate that difference throwing more high numbers
with certain sets and low number with another. Are there any betting patterns you can use to adjust the HA, is this influence a constant
or does it vary from day to day or table to table.
In addition when you say the following "Personally I'm not interested in something that can't overcame the HA. Unless I see at least a 1/2 percent advantage I'm not interested (less if the mail is incredible) does that mean some one else has to show you, then what are you going to, have them throw for
you or are you interesting in putting in 10,000 hours to get that influence yourself?????
Axelwolf you can't get to that position without the work
dicesetter
you indicated you wanted to do a video of (me) or any other person to
show control by watching their set, toss and a slow motion movement of the
dice all the way through the shot.
My question is what would you do with that?????? and since it would be of
some one else's set and throw....w hat good would that do you????
Dicesetter
Quote: dicesitterquestion for Alan
you indicated you wanted to do a video of (me) or any other person to
show control by watching their set, toss and a slow motion movement of the
dice all the way through the shot.
My question is what would you do with that?????? and since it would be of
some one else's set and throw....w hat good would that do you????
Dicesetter
I'd like to put it on YouTube so everyone can see it. And if the shooter is that good I'd like to feature it on my TV show. All with their permission of course and full credit.
Thank you for the answer.....I appreciate that.
Dicesetter
I think you misjudged my intent with the discourse on influence and that may be partly
my fault.
I am certain you can influence the dice, at least given what I know, I don't think there is
anything like dice control, or at least enough control that you can take from table to table, and
day to day..
I understand there are players that want to put an end to all talk about influence and dice control
because of the crap they take in Vegas and maybe other places...... I am not afraid of that
because I think the idea that a player can get some influence is very good for the game of craps, I also
think it is very good for casino's.
To many casino's have craps table that sit there empty, here in Wisconsin there are a number of casino's
that don't have the table open during the week, or then only one half open. If you like to play during the week
you have options, but not as many as you would if there more players.
One of our casino's decided you could not set the dice, so over 6 months they lost 80% of the craps play. not
because there were that many dice setters, but because they played often during the week and when there are
people at the table, others are more likely to play as well. They came to their senses and opened the table to
dice setting again and brought the tub back out. It was busy everyday... I played couple of times a week, 3 other
dice setters did as well so they were busy... well they screwed up again... they put the tub in the back room and
brought the 14 footer out and then only opened 1 side. The dice setter guys quit going because they only
had one throwing option during the week days, soon, they closed the table on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
In my opinion, the guys that work on the dice throw play more often and in our area that means we have more
choices. You take away the idea that influence is possible.... it hurts the game, the players and makes tons less
money for the casino... the small amount a dice setter makes when he or she is really on their game is a drop
in the bucket compared to what the casino can make if the table stays busy.
I am going to continue to work on my throw and I may even put up another video, but it wont show me or my sets
and it wont claim there is anything like dice control. Some how folks got the idea that a little influence automatically
leads to consistent profits at the table is complete nonsense, but I makes one want to play the game, and now and then
when it leads to some profits its fun.... but it does not make a very good movie.
dicesetter
Quote: DeMangoIt's all about the money.
exactly
Quote: dicesitter
I am going to continue to work on my throw and I may even put up another video, but it wont show me or my sets
and it wont claim there is anything like dice control.
dicesetter
So what the heck is there to talk about?
Quote: AlanMendelsonSo what the heck is there to talk about?
There is nothing to talk about. Just somebody tilting at windmills. Maybe somebody wants to be the next Ed Thorp? Or, The Captain of Wisconsin!
Makes you wonder,..doesn't it!
Quote: superrickGee,...When the BS, can't be proven with a few videos, what the on axis DI schools can't find anybody that can keep their dice on axis. What's that tell everybody? As Heavy said maybe only 3% of his student go on to making money at playing craps, well it looks like it must a lot lower then that if they can't find one guy that can keep their dice on axis!!!
Like all scams, the effort is concentrated on victim and not the reality of what is being sold or promoted. Since you don't agree(and won't be convinced by some sales pitch) with the concept that dice can be kept on an axis you aren't the target customer. It has to be someone so naive he/she will believe the sales pitch and put the money down in advance of course. The only "teams" you read about are those who have a guy/gal who has mastered dice sliding and the other team members distract and clear a path for the die. Even in dice sliding it often(what I've read) only involves one die and the team accepts they must make several wagers covering the possibilities of the second die result. A school which taught how to slide and distract might work, but I doubt it. How would you market such a school?
3% ????? That's an incredible number assuming he gets enough suckers.Quote: superrickGee,...When the BS, can't be proven with a few videos, what the on axis DI schools can't find anybody that can keep their dice on axis. What's that tell everybody? As Heavy said maybe only 3% of his student go on to making money at playing craps, well it looks like it must a lot lower then that if they can't find one guy that can keep their dice on axis!!!
Is there one person who actually supports themselves solely on DI?
Quote: AxelWolf3% ????? That's an incredible number assuming he gets enough suckers.Quote: superrickGee,...When the BS, can't be proven with a few videos, what the on axis DI schools can't find anybody that can keep their dice on axis. What's that tell everybody? As Heavy said maybe only 3% of his student go on to making money at playing craps, well it looks like it must a lot lower then that if they can't find one guy that can keep their dice on axis!!!
Is there one person who actually supports themselves solely on DI?
The only place I have seen that claimed is in the books...
I would think, with all of the gamblers here, someone would know if there was someone supporting themselves with dice influence.
A lot of people seem to have supported themselves by TEACHING DI...
Quote: superrickGee,...When the BS, can't be proven with a few videos, what the on axis DI schools can't find anybody that can keep their dice on axis. What's that tell everybody? As Heavy said maybe only 3% of his student go on to making money at playing craps, well it looks like it must a lot lower then that if they can't find one guy that can keep their dice on axis!!!
Heavy is a retired car salesman.
You decide what he is selling you.
Quote: AxelWolf3% ????? That's an incredible number assuming he gets enough suckers.Quote: superrickGee,...When the BS, can't be proven with a few videos, what the on axis DI schools can't find anybody that can keep their dice on axis. What's that tell everybody? As Heavy said maybe only 3% of his student go on to making money at playing craps, well it looks like it must a lot lower then that if they can't find one guy that can keep their dice on axis!!!
Is there one person who actually supports themselves solely on DI?
There's a huge difference between being able to influence the dice and being aware of which bets to make in order to maximize your profits. In my experience, everyone who claims to be able to influence the dice has focused on the ratio of 7s to total rolls. That is a terrible measurement. It is not well-correlated with the house edge of any particular wager and can often be inversely-correlated. In other words, based on the "on-axis" model of dice rolling, it is sometimes the case that rolling *slightly more* sevens will swing the edge on the passline toward the player. This result is completely contrary to the conventional wisdom of the typical dice-influence practitioner.
This is likely the main reason you don't hear about people supporting themselves on DI, because if paired with proper wagering, even a small amount of influence would easily be the most profitable form of advantage play in a casino. There is never any heat at a dice table, the game rules do not change as wager limits increase, and the variety of wagers on the table would allow a skilled shooter to minimize bankroll variance when compared to a game like blackjack and card counting. Also, a properly-funded DI would be able to play at high-enough stakes (say $500/roll) to play at a private table -- this would ensure that the influence was present for 100% of the rolls, not just a small fraction. At $500/roll with no heat, a skilled shooter would make hundreds or thousands per hour in EV.
Because I'm interested in a proper study of the ultimate question -- whether allowable dice influence (not sliding) is actually possible at a regulation table -- I'll make the following offer: if anyone has faith in their ability to influence the dice, PM me. I will create a custom wagering spread built to maximize your expectation and minimize variance based on your particular style of influence as measured statistically. I will sign an NDA to protect your identity, where you play, etc. Compensation and other details to be negotiated privately.
I don't have the ability to influence the dice, but if you do and you're still not winning, it's because you're betting poorly based on an incorrect understanding of how your influence affects the house edge of the various bets on the table. If you want to turn your ability to influence the dice into an ability to profit from that influence, PM me.
Quote: MathExtremistcompletely contrary to the conventional wisdom of the typical dice-influence practitioner.Quote: AxelWolf3% ????? That's an incredible number assuming he gets enough suckers.Quote: superrickGee,...When the BS, can't be proven with a few videos, what the on axis DI schools can't find anybody that can keep their dice on axis. What's that tell everybody? As Heavy said maybe only 3% of his student go on to making money at playing craps, well it looks like it must a lot lower then that if they can't find one guy that can keep their dice on axis!!!
Is there one person who actually supports themselves solely on DI?
There is never any heat at a dice table, the game rules do not change as wager limits increase, and the variety of wagers on the table would allow a skilled shooter to minimize bankroll variance when compared to a game like blackjack and card counting. Also, a properly-funded DI would be able to play at high-enough stakes (say $500/roll) to play at a private table -- this would ensure that the influence was present for 100% of the rolls, not just a small fraction. At $500/roll with no heat, a skilled shooter would make hundreds or thousands per hour in EV.
Well here in and around Vegas you do get heat if your any good or just getting lucky. They will take the dice off you if you miss the back wall which is just plain stupid on the casinos part.
Most so-called DI's will start a dead table, they do not win all of the time like our fiction writers wants everybody to believe. No they do not take millions off the tables, that only happens in their little stories. It has gotten so bad that I've seen them threatening to take the dice off a 90 year old because he was on a lucky roll.
I stopped playing craps at Sams Town over that one! Now I also stoped in the Sams Town Shreveport, Louisiana and they never said a thing to anybody about hitting the back wall. The same thing in New Mexico at the Sana Anna Star casino. So it all depends where you play at and how offen they see you.
It also depends on how sweaty the casino is. The DI's are all random just like the so-called random rollers they love to cut down, I've shown that in all of the slow motion videos that I found on the internet that I posted on this and many other craps boards.
The only conclusion if your not living in fantasyland by these videos is that the dice do not stay on axis like these schools wants everybody to believe. So the casinos shouldn't be hassling anybody. Once the dice hit the table they are random and that is all there is to it!
I always ask this question,...Is there anybody you know in these videos? That's because they were all made by shooters that thought they were DI's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXc2PXS114&index=12&list=TLPhC1SU9dvTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkU458iCDiY&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hheh7c6J77Y&index=34&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOOULZHKNo0&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NaIs8y_hE&index=37&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jej4WNRGyR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiZf3jbjie0&list=UUfDRf2L1rCEgYtGFlS_z9ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS-R8XYUjhs&list=PL29EB7437F6533C12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68pu1F0D_9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_wQN7MELc
This guy found 172 videos on throwing the dice or dice control and put them all in one spot for your viewing pleasure and he surely saved me a lot of work! Just page down on the right side to see all of the videos he found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrqyVrQWck&list=PL57YTXgE9UrKJJZsOGpdaFhWAEETRt-rU
Lets not forget the one guy that had the best set-up for dice control, Aaron Hightower who went the extra mile to try to prove that dice control either work or it didn't. I have to give him a high-five for all of the work he put into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2QS26ppbc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBJwLtAORa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSfu5QDDVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM3qDV9Lz3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTzwChYv0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-uMB17x4I
It's a come a long way since the Ahigh challenge. :)
Question....... if a DI came forward and proved to you he or she could influence the dice......then just what
casino could that person play at.... and further which casino could anyone that sets the dice play at.
You want others to help you look good in saying here my analysis proved once and for all that you
can influence the dice..... ok based on what and will have to say based on what this guy said and proved with his 50 hour
video......
So once they cant play anywhere and neither can any other dicesetter..... you going to be happy
The truth is simple you don't give a damn about the guys that are doing all the work.
You guys say well we want to prevent other players from being taken in by the dice control nonsense.. that is total
BS
Your no different than the mad professor... he wants to say stupid things to seem like he is much better than he is
and you want others to help you look good even if it prevents them from doing the very thing they love to do.
sometimes if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.. it is a duck.
dicesetter
Quote: dicesitterMathextremist
The truth is simple you don't give a damn about the guys that are doing all the work.
In all of your incoherent ramblings -- and your last post was particularly so -- that sentence might be the only thing remotely close to the truth. I don't "give a damn" about what you call "doing all the work" because that work is utterly irrelevant. You say you've spent seven years developing the incredible ability to affect the dice outcomes: You report that 40% of the time (instead of 33.33%) one of the dice you throw ends up on a certain axis. When I pointed out that you'd have a huge edge and should be making well over $1000/day, you confessed that your alleged 40% figure doesn't actually happen in a casino, only on your table at home. What on earth is the point of practicing at home if the results don't carry over to a casino? That's like trying to get good at shooting free throws by practicing the saxophone.
Quote:Your no different than the mad professor... he wants to say stupid things to seem like he is much better than he is
and you want others to help you look good even if it prevents them from doing the very thing they love to do.
I'm not here to kill your joy (and I don't know who the mad professor is), so if puttering around your home-made dice table makes you happy, you just go right on doing it. But stop pretending that your concept of "doing all the work" is something that anyone else should ever do.
Quote: dicesitterMathextremist
Question....... if a DI came forward and proved to you he or she could influence the dice......then just what
casino could that person play at.... and further which casino could anyone that sets the dice play at.
You want others to help you look good in saying here my analysis proved once and for all that you
can influence the dice..... ok based on what and will have to say based on what this guy said and proved with his 50 hour
video......
So once they cant play anywhere and neither can any other dicesetter..... you going to be happy
The truth is simple you don't give a damn about the guys that are doing all the work.
You guys say well we want to prevent other players from being taken in by the dice control nonsense.. that is total
BS
Your no different than the mad professor... he wants to say stupid things to seem like he is much better than he is
and you want others to help you look good even if it prevents them from doing the very thing they love to do.
sometimes if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.. it is a duck.
dicesetter
dicesetter,
Take a step back and a deep breath, please. You're bordering on personal insults to both ME and mp in the bolded part of your post, above. Warning: further comments of this type will result in a suspension. Thanks!
Quote: RonCA lot of people seem to have supported themselves by TEACHING DI...
"Those who can't do, teach." takes on an even stricter meaning. Literally, "can't do". ; )
Then you explain what would happen if a guy did come forward and helped axel or math extremist show that under certain situations
you can influence the dice.... where would that person play,..... where would any dicesetter play..
I am been very clear to indicate that the idea of dice control is good for the casino because the vast majority that work on
dice control really have none, the few that can wont hurt the casino.
It is you guys that keep demanding and insulting any one that discusses the issue.. people wont come forward to hurt
themselves...
Sorry I don't think I am out of line asking if people care about those they would harm...
dicesetter
Quote: dicesitterThen you explain what would happen if a guy did come forward and helped axel or math extremist show that under certain situations
you can influence the dice.... where would that person play,..... where would any dicesetter play..
It is you guys that keep demanding and insulting any one that discusses the issue.. people wont come forward to hurt
themselves...
What a difference two weeks makes:
Quote: dicesitter, June 23I simple said the thrower can cause the dice to vary in terms of results and that produces
a bias from standard.....just as improperly balanced dice produce a result that should not
be expected.
Don't get your panty hose in a bundle.
Your supposed to be the math guy, I offered now many times to have us all work together
to show if there is a difference in results based on shooter bias.
I always wonder just what your afraid of.
Your own post. It's fine if you've changed your mind but don't act insulted that I'm asking. You made the offer in the first place.
Quote: dicesitterbeach
Then you explain what would happen if a guy did come forward and helped axel or math extremist show that under certain situations
you can influence the dice.... where would that person play,..... where would any dicesetter play..
I am been very clear to indicate that the idea of dice control is good for the casino because the vast majority that work on
dice control really have none, the few that can wont hurt the casino.
It is you guys that keep demanding and insulting any one that discusses the issue.. people wont come forward to hurt
themselves...
Sorry I don't think I am out of line asking if people care about those they would harm...
dicesetter
Assuming you're asking me,
You can carry on your argument/discussion as long as you like. Nobody, including you, gets to call members "stupid" or use other insulting words to describe the PEOPLE on the opposite side of your discussion. I understand you're frustrated with your failure to convince or change the viewpoint of those you're arguing with. Leave the personal remarks out of it. That's all.
Wear a mask, problem solved.Quote: dicesitterbeach
Then you explain what would happen if a guy did come forward and helped axel or math extremist show that under certain situations
you can influence the dice.... where would that person play,..... where would any dicesetter play..
I am been very clear to indicate that the idea of dice control is good for the casino because the vast majority that work on
dice control really have none, the few that can wont hurt the casino.
It is you guys that keep demanding and insulting any one that discusses the issue.. people wont come forward to hurt
themselves...
Sorry I don't think I am out of line asking if people care about those they would harm...
dicesetter
Again if someone could prove they can influence the dice they wouldn't need to play in the casinos they could afford to buy on in a few years. You could actually make money from all your hard work. Even if you can't do it profitably yourself you could teach others who would be willing to pay thousands.
Make a poll asking the question who and what would you be willing to pay if someone showed proof you could actually influence the dice using your style.
FYI people are still counting cards decades later.
If DIs are not making enough to hurt the casinos then that should tell you something.
In your estimation how many DI's are better than you?
I can guarantee you that there are enough people out there that would jump at the chance to prove DI is possible. Can you explain why someone cant show in a slow motion video and explain what's happening that indicates influence?
You don't need years of practice to produce just a few influenced shots. Even if 99% of your shots are bad someone just needs a few good shots to prove it's possible..
You did not answer my question, and I think that deserves to be answered.
I fully understand you don't think it is possible to have any influence on the dice so
you will over look the comments made by others that try to make any one that works
on dice control look foolish.
All I would like is a comment made that you understand that if some one did come forward
and proved they could beat the game... there would be a price to pay for that.
In the end, there is no frustration here because what ever happens does not affect our work
or play..... last night I did not go to the table say wow, "Axel said I really can't do this" I played
the shoots the best I could and I was happy with the results.
dicesetter
well, from your first thread i see at WoV you roll 6s and 8s more than averageQuote: dicesitterI fully understand you don't think it is possible to have any influence on the dice <snip>
dicesetter
so you says
actually you are a 1 in 10 million type if i believe your words written
and you passed on being a shooter for a team
wow!
i will not link to that 1st thread of yours
maybe you be like others and change some of your posts there
the new craps hand record now stands at 163 rolls (yep, that single Mom from Utah did it back in April)
and I have some info on that come a few weeks from vacation
please, when you get a chance,
state your roll probability distribution from Smart Craps (the probabilities for the 36 combos of the dice, say for your point rolls)
you must know it, you are the last hope
(I asked Frank S about this long time ago and he says he knows nothing on how to get that
and neither does Smart Craps give that info as far as i can see. i guess requires more digging)
have fun no matter what
hehehe
laugh with the Unicorns, haters and alligators (yes, the green ones)
Sally
Quote: mustangsallylaugh with the Unicorns, haters and alligators (yes, the green ones)
Sally
The fellow on the right bears an uncanny resemblance to Simon Pegg:
(note to mods: is there a way to resize an image through the tags here? That's really big...)
that is wonderful......
dicesetter
Have not used Smart Craps for some time, but I will look that up.
dicesetter
Quote: dicesitter163 roll
that is wonderful......
dicesetter
I wonder why only one person knows about it!
Quote: dicesitterbeachbumbabs
You did not answer my question, and I think that deserves to be answered.
I fully understand you don't think it is possible to have any influence on the dice so
you will over look the comments made by others that try to make any one that works
on dice control look foolish.
All I would like is a comment made that you understand that if some one did come forward
and proved they could beat the game... there would be a price to pay for that.
In the end, there is no frustration here because what ever happens does not affect our work
or play..... last night I did not go to the table say wow, "Axel said I really can't do this" I played
the shoots the best I could and I was happy with the results.
dicesetter
dice,
I haven't taken sides in this discussion. FWIW, I personally think it's within the realm of possibility that dice can be influenced enough to make a difference; I believe I saw it once, on a table at Harrah's, playing with miplet after the WoV dinner at G2E2013, and I said so at the time, with details.
That said, the people opposing your contention are addressing what you are saying, without addressing you personally about it (so far). Vigorous debate can be frustrating and insulting by implication, but that implication is self-imposed by you; THEY are not making personal assaults on you. When you reply to them, you are not limiting yourself to debunking their contention or refuting their arguments; you are name-calling and being disparaging of those people for holding those opinions and making those arguments in opposition. Thus the warning.
I would be the first to acknowledge and congratulate you if you were to prove your contentions beyond question. I think there would be others who would also welcome objective proof. But then, it seems you would be the first to prove them, if you could do so.
thanks but again you did not answer my basic question.... is there a reason for that???
dicesetter
Quote: dicesitterbeathbumbabs
thanks but again you did not answer my basic question.... is there a reason for that???
dicesetter
I'm not ducking your question, so I obviously don't understand it. Is there a reason for what? Telling you not to insult people because that's how this forum is run? Not seeing an insult to you personally from the people debunking your premise? If you can't have a discussion in opposition to what people are saying to you without becoming personally insulted, or without insulting them personally when they argue against you, I don't know how you can continue to post here.
I guess you have to take a step away from your emotions over your passion for this pursuit to have the discussion. We all have to try to do that, all the time. Or stop trying to post what several people consider nonsense in the absence of proof.
It's there a unwritten rule about being fair game if you're the odd man out?Quote: beachbumbabsI'm not ducking your question, so I obviously don't understand it. Is there a reason for what? Telling you not to insult people because that's how this forum is run? Not seeing an insult to you personally from the people debunking your premise? If you can't have a discussion in opposition to what people are saying to you without becoming personally insulted, or without insulting them personally when they argue against you, I don't know how you can continue to post here.
I guess you have to take a step away from your emotions over your passion for this pursuit to have the discussion. We all have to try to do that, all the time. Or stop trying to post what several people consider nonsense in the absence of proof.
Or you paint a target on you're back? Concerning this is a unofficial betting system isn't more leeway given?
(-;
PS. OH NVM
Can we all please get a little more faith in what humans are able to do with practice and determination. If you still don't believe it let's play in August.
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2z4fo6q%3E&s=8#.VZts5vlVhBc
note: I only had one camera so I had to sync two different throws together for the two perspectives.
It's your own private Idaho: you run with it.
Looks like fun. Are you sure you wouldn't prefer to come when the weather is a little warmer? : ) I saw two lizards hitch hiking north.Quote: nickolay411Someone asked for it, this is the best I could do at 2am the other day.
Quote: MrVI still don't believe it is a viable, replicable method of AP.
It's your own private Idaho: you run with it.
You're probably right. I'm still in the hole in the mid thousands. But sessions and are improving as I continue to work on the shot. There is a small glimmer of hope in me. In the end time will tell.
Quote: petroglyphLooks like fun. Are you sure you wouldn't prefer to come when the weather is a little warmer? : ) I saw two lizards hitch hiking north.
Lol. I have a few friends who tried to coax me into playing golf around that time. Crazy people.
Well ya, I can see how this mimics real casino condition.Quote: nickolay411Someone asked for it, this is the best I could do at 2am the other day. My craps practice rig is being borrowed by a friend at the moment. In the meantime I came into a 240 fps sony camera from a friend at work. I have replicated this shot on craps tables and been no rolled many times when both dice didn't turn over hitting below the pyramids.
Can we all please get a little more faith in what humans are able to do with practice and determination. If you still don't believe it let's play in August.
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2z4fo6q%3E&s=8#.VZts5vlVhBc
note: I only had one camera so I had to sync two different throws together for the two perspectives.
Quote: AxelWolfWell ya, I can see how this mimics real casino condition.
Cool! Well give me some credit for at least not tossing onto a bed ;) An inch thick cutting board and a brown shopping bag had to suffice at that moment.
I can see how you could dual purpose that in no time at all : )Quote: nickolay411An inch thick cutting board and a brown shopping bag had to suffice at that moment.
I can just see a giant fan base haranguing you with questions:
Q) What set did you use?
A) Dining room
Ok I have tried as nicely as I can to get one basic answer and that does not work, you have accused
me of feeling slighted...I don't.... you have accused me of being to emotional, I am not.
Now if I make you feel uncomfortable because I ask others to be part of the process, well just have the guts
to say we don't want you here.
Math asked me to produce 50 hours of video... that is a significant amount of work..... all I asked was a
simple question........ if a person came forward and proved on video they could beat the casino at will
by throwing...... where then would that person play??? would it make it worse for other players???
Still no answer...
The truth is I have provided a lot more raw data on here than anyone, showing the results, and video's of a throw that I indicated
less randomness after the dice hit the table and not much affect of the back wall...
There is no emotion in that... the emotion came from others because for one reason or another that was not good enough.
That's their emotion not mine..... if I felt it was not good enough I would not have presented it.
It was Axel that said my toss looks pretty good... then went on to say how that guys keeps hanging around for so long
having to put up with me .... You did not hear me say I will keep producing data until these guys leave......
I trust you understand that question now..... and if you answer that question, you will understand my comments
were not an insult, but rather a real question to see if they really cared at all about any person they are asking to come
forward?
But please do me a favor...allow me to stay or just say we don't want you here....either way it is far better than your
constant analysis of my emotions.
dicesetter
