Kerkebet
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December 24th, 2014 at 9:59:58 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

The three DIs I've seen shoot I am sure do well.


Likely because they're not wasting their time here.

Quote: AlanMendelson

I can't address all of the DI wannabees.


You just did.
Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.
superrick
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December 24th, 2014 at 10:29:41 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Superrick I am surprised the administrators haven't cited you for spam.

There is a difference between true DIs and people who just set the dice and think they have a controlled throw.

Just knock it off already.


Alan its not spam if I'm just posting the truth, your dice do not stay on axis and that is all there is to it. If you think becoming a DI works so good why did you give up on playing craps and start playing video poker?

Who can you blame your loses on when your playing video poker? You will not have any so-called random rollers that you could say cost you money betting on them. I guess you just got tired of looking for those elusive so-called DI's, after all you said you have only seen three of them in all the years you had played craps. Noticed that I said had played craps, because in your own words you have giving up playing craps and now your playing video poker.

My, my, my now your going to become the expert on video poker, telling everybody that you can win playing it! My hat goes off to you,... keep up the good work, we will be following you to see when you switch to your next game of choice. When you finally figure out that you can't beat video poker either!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
AlanMendelson
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December 24th, 2014 at 10:43:12 AM permalink
Superrick you don't read very well. I gave up only on chicken feeders. I still shoot. And pretty damn well.
AxelWolf
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December 24th, 2014 at 11:13:36 AM permalink
Quote: superrick

I can tell you exactly where it goes. They come to Vegas to take a class or to met up with some other so-called DI's they lose then they run home and do a trip report on a DI board that sells becoming a so-called DI. What happens next is just amazing. They write that they lost and all of the board members pile on to tell they that they are sorry to hear about their lost, but they will get them the next time.

Their great fiction writers now pat them on the back and tell them what they did wrong and if they bet this way or that way they could have made money. Their heroes the ones that sell their classes now tell them they need to take a refresher course, even after they just took one.

They will write about the one so-called DI that got on a good roll and how they should have made money on that roll, only if they didn't already blow their bank roll betting on the other so-called DI's they were with. Now comes the funny part if they took a class they may have paid a hook up fee to go to the tables with their heroes only to lose when their heroes were shooting.

Now days the class that is charging for hook-up fees is calling it the “After Glow” fee.

Then you have the other so-called DI's that write that they won when they actually lost, their big wins always come when no one is around, after everybody else went home. Back when I was working in the casinos I would see this happen way to much. It could have been after work that I stopped to play craps or just watch a game and would have one of my buddies tell me the name of the so-called DI that was losing his butt, only to read his trip report that said that he won big time, at the same casino at the same time he was playing, when I saw him losing!

Ask most players if they won or lost and you get the same old story, they won or they broke even. Actually this needs to be STUCK at the top of every Craps thread.

The one thing that really sticks out about the so-called DI's is they have heroes that are selling what they are doing. Or are just pathological liars that write some of the best fiction you will ever read about becoming a DI. There is one that nobody has ever met that once was claiming to have an SRR of 28, that is always writing that he takes hundreds of thousands of dollars off the craps tables a year.

If you are a loser and need some one to pat you on your back after that big lost just joined one of the DI boards, where you will find like minded people that will make you feel better about losing!

Then they come back the next time after taking all the advice of heroes to only repeat the same cycle all over again, sure there will be times that they get lucky and they do win, but don't the so-called random rollers do the same thing. Their dice do not stay on axis as these on axis schools want everybody to believe. These schools have never produced one slow motion video of their dice doing so! But there are hundreds of videos that show their dice bouncing all over the place when they hit the tables.

Is there anybody you know in these videos?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2FYrndlrpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0rAh1ug2Mk&list=UUUJo96xngJwaqh8rIk2whng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXc2PXS114&index=12&list=TLPhC1SU9dvTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1FO4YsUA30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqiptZZotMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXc2PXS114&index=12&list=TLPhC1SU9dvTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k467uPlLn3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXc2PXS114&index=12&list=TLPhC1SU9dvTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkU458iCDiY&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hheh7c6J77Y&index=34&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOOULZHKNo0&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NaIs8y_hE&index=37&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jej4WNRGyR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiZf3jbjie0&list=UUfDRf2L1rCEgYtGFlS_z9ag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS-R8XYUjhs&list=PL29EB7437F6533C12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68pu1F0D_9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_wQN7MELc

This guy found 172 videos on throwing the dice or dice control and put them all in one spot for your viewing pleasure and he surely saved me a lot of work! Just page down on the right side to see all of the videos he found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrqyVrQWck&list=PL57YTXgE9UrKJJZsOGpdaFhWAEETRt-rU

Lets not forget the one guy that had the best set-up for dice control, Aaron Hightower who went the extra mile to try to prove that dice control either work or it didn't. I have to give him a high-five for all of the work he put into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2QS26ppbc8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBJwLtAORa0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSfu5QDDVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM3qDV9Lz3Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTzwChYv0U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-uMB17x4I

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
mickeycrimm
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December 24th, 2014 at 11:16:06 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Superrick I am surprised the administrators haven't cited you for spam.

There is a difference between true DIs and people who just set the dice and think they have a controlled throw.

Just knock it off already.



If dice inflluence or dice control, whatever you want to call it, worked, then Aaron Hightower would not need a job. And that's my advice to all you DI's. Don't give up your day jobs.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
AxelWolf
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December 24th, 2014 at 11:17:58 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

The three DIs I've seen shoot I am sure do well. .

That's because they all have good jobs, I'm willing to bet they have no better chance winning at craps than a random roller who makes good bets.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AlanMendelson
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December 24th, 2014 at 11:19:43 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

If dice inflluence or dice control, whatever you want to call it, worked, then Aaron Hightower would not need a job. And that's my advice to all you DI's. Don't give up your day job.



Don't degrade the conversation with personal attacks. The only thing that I'd like to know is why so many of you can't define DI correctly.
mickeycrimm
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December 24th, 2014 at 11:24:35 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Don't degrade the conversation with personal attacks. The only thing that I'd like to know is why so many of you can't define DI correctly.



Alan, why don't you jump into the Accumulator Slots thread and explain to everyone here like you explained to me on your forum that my science on machines is bad science....and how I tried to pull a fast one on you. You've got everyone who is anyone in the gambling world on this forum, from the Wiz on down, professional gamblers, slot game designers, degree'd mathematicians to explain it to. See if you can get any of them to agree with you that I don't know what I'm talking about. Put up or shut up.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
AxelWolf
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December 24th, 2014 at 11:25:23 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

If dice inflluence or dice control, whatever you want to call it, worked, then Aaron Hightower would not need a job. And that's my advice to all you DI's. Don't give up your day job.

NO Mickey AH didn't have what most DI's consider a proper shot, It bounced way to much off the back wall. Way out of the acceptable "ZONE" If there's the slightest possibly of DI its not with his shot. He needed a softer touch if he ever had a chance IMO.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Kerkebet
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December 24th, 2014 at 11:29:38 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Don't degrade the conversation with personal attacks.


I was going to chime in on another of mc's silly Montana invitations to Montana in the other thread about someone claiming to have won hundreds of thousands at the bj tables - only to have a statistically hard-to-believe income last year by comparison - but common sense got the better of me.

Don't give up yours, mc... for the one you never had.
Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.

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