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MrCasinoGames
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August 17th, 2014 at 4:40:29 PM permalink
Section Shooting! or Unbalanced wheel.

Ohio man charged with helping players win at roulette at The Meadows Read More...
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August 17th, 2014 at 5:19:40 PM permalink
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Section Shooting! or Unbalanced wheel.

Ohio man charged with helping players win at roulette at The Meadows Read More...



I dont have any experience in this stuff, but is this even possible?

And the big tip helped someone win several HUNDRED dollars. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me...
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August 17th, 2014 at 6:04:53 PM permalink
Prior thread exists on this I think...

Was it an actual attempt by the croupier or the mere fact that by implying he could do what he would attempt he was making a false statement to the players?

Octet betting is common in roulette but croupiers have to look away from the wheel prior to ball release and focus their eyes on the far corner of the table and so really do NOT have the ability to know if the ball is being launched at their desired release point or not. Casinos do not allow a croupier to watch the wheel when releasing the ball.
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August 17th, 2014 at 6:33:29 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Prior thread exists on this I think...

Was it an actual attempt by the croupier or the mere fact that by implying he could do what he would attempt he was making a false statement to the players?

Octet betting is common in roulette but croupiers have to look away from the wheel prior to ball release and focus their eyes on the far corner of the table and so really do NOT have the ability to know if the ball is being launched at their desired release point or not. Casinos do not allow a croupier to watch the wheel when releasing the ball.



A dealer can stare meticulously at the ball, the wheel, and actually try and release the ball with the exact same speed, velocity and timing. It is physically impossible for them to influence the results. If they had even a fraction of the physical finesse, a fraction of the ability to do complex physics calculations in their head, and a fraction of the fine motor skills, they could easily destroy the PBA tour with an average in the mid 290s.

The last trial this steeped in ignorance took place in Salem.
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August 17th, 2014 at 7:09:59 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Prior thread exists on this I think...

Was it an actual attempt by the croupier or the mere fact that by implying he could do what he would attempt he was making a false statement to the players?

Octet betting is common in roulette but croupiers have to look away from the wheel prior to ball release and focus their eyes on the far corner of the table and so really do NOT have the ability to know if the ball is being launched at their desired release point or not. Casinos do not allow a croupier to watch the wheel when releasing the ball.



Maybe it's different in the U.S, but i've dealt Roulette for years and have never heard of this procedure. You might be confusing it with the procedure of casing the layout before spinning, but at the point of releasing the ball there is no procedure saying you cant look at the wheel or ball, as far as i'm aware.

Having said that, i am in no way saying that the dealer can control where the ball will land, just commenting on the procedures.

Also, what is 'Octet betting'? Never heard of that?
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August 17th, 2014 at 7:11:14 PM permalink
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A dealer can stare meticulously at the ball, the wheel, and actually try and release the ball with the exact same speed, velocity and timing. It is physically impossible for them to influence the results. If they had even a fraction of the physical finesse, a fraction of the ability to do complex physics calculations in their head, and a fraction of the fine motor skills, they could easily destroy the PBA tour with an average in the mid 290s.

The last trial this steeped in ignorance took place in Salem.



Completely agree, i'd be retired by now as a very wealthy man if this was true.
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