DJTeddyBear
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March 30th, 2012 at 5:13:28 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

why does the fire bet have such a bad wrap?

I wish I knew.

Sure, it's got a high edge. Lump it in with all the other high house edge side bets. Including my Poker For Roulette bet. They are all equally stupid bets.

I do NOT believe it's the house edge so much as the duration between hitting even the smallest prize.

Hell, there is also the duration between merely placing the bet.

Frankly, I LIKE that aspect of it. It's part of the reason that it's the only side bet that I will play.

I mean, seriously. How long are you at a craps table? A few hours? In that time, how many shooters are there? Is it that big a deal to drop a buck for each shooter?
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March 30th, 2012 at 5:16:49 AM permalink
" Including my Poker For Roulette bet. They are all equally stupid bets."

Gee, sure hope that isn't part of your brochure. LOL
DJTeddyBear
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March 30th, 2012 at 5:38:09 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Including my Poker For Roulette bet. They are all equally stupid bets."

Gee, sure hope that isn't part of your brochure. LOL

It's funny you should say that.

About 10 years ago, there was a conference between my brothers, our wives and the staff of the nursing home where my mother had recently moved to. She's there due to a stroke leaving her paralyzed on one side. Unlike most of the residents, she still has 100% of her marbles. Anyway, part of the meeting was to discuss her needs for a larger room.

The social worker told us that she was at the top of the list for a bigger room. When we gave her our skeptical looks, she said, "It's probably not going to be a long wait. People die here all the time."

My response was, "Is that in the brochure?"

As it happened, a bigger room became available the next day.

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Anyway, I did say equally stupid. Interpret that any way you like.

If you've really paid attention, you also know that I think it's probably stupid to even set foot in a casino.

I mean, seriously. What rational person walks into a situation, where the expectation is that it's gonna cost them an unknown amount of money for.... what? The slim chance that they'll walk out ahead?

That said, I probably wouldn't bet the Poker For Roulette bet if I didn't know the inventor. Then again, I don't play Roulette to begin with. I have a good feeling that those people that DO play Roulette will fall in love with my bet, every bit as much as the crotchety old ladies who yell at you for not betting the side-bet-du-jour at the other games, when you happen to get a winner. FYI: They are crotchety because they hate to see a winning hand with no bet, and are jealous. That doesn't happen with the Fire Bet because everyone is either betting, or not, on the same thing. Ditto for Poker For Roulette.
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March 30th, 2012 at 6:41:48 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Hell, there is also the duration between merely placing the bet.


On the occasions that I have been playing the fire bet, it seems I keep putting those bets back up in rapid-fire sequence. :-)
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March 30th, 2012 at 7:17:08 AM permalink
The fire bet is not offered at the tribal casinos I frequent in Oregon and Washington.

Is it found at casinos outside of Las Vegas?
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March 30th, 2012 at 7:18:43 AM permalink
Yes, I have seen it in several casinos in Mississippi.
DJTeddyBear
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March 30th, 2012 at 7:26:50 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

The fire bet is not offered at the tribal casinos I frequent in Oregon and Washington.

Is it found at casinos outside of Las Vegas?

Yeah. For a while, Harrah's had an exclusive and it was available only at most Harrah's casinos. Then they started adding it to casinos that were at least 'x' miles from a Harrah's.

It was at Mohegan Sun as well as Foxwoods - but not at the MGM at Foxwoods section. Wierd.

Now Harrah's Caesars no longer has the exclusive, and ShuffleMaster recently bought it, so you'll probably see it in more places.
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MidwestAP
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March 30th, 2012 at 7:38:51 AM permalink
I saw the Fire Bet yesterday at the Diamond Jo Casino in Dubuque IA, owned by Penisula Gaming LLC.
Nareed
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March 30th, 2012 at 7:44:22 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I mean, seriously. What rational person walks into a situation, where the expectation is that it's gonna cost them an unknown amount of money for.... what? The slim chance that they'll walk out ahead?



No. For the pleasure and relaxation (seriously) afforded by the various games, along with some excitement at the slim chance that you will walk out ahead.

As to the brochure, if I were a casino executive and you told me "this is a really stupid bet," I'd be pelased to be doing business with someone who understands side bets. But I wouldn't put that in the brochure for the customers. Nareed's Law: Sucker bets were not devised by suckers. :)
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DJTeddyBear
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March 30th, 2012 at 7:54:47 AM permalink
Nareed -

I get what you're saying about the relaxation part. Add entertainment and all the other buzz words that gets thrown in the mix. It's all good.

And thanks for understanding what I'm saying about the stupid factor.
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