Craps - Electronic Board With Past Rolls
I am thinking something similar to roulette or baccarat. It could show both dice, so people could see how many hardways were rolled.
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I assume that the reason it hasn't gotten the number of installs it deserves is because, unlike Roulette with it's sensors, someone would need to enter the dice values. Too time consuming for a fast paced game like Craps.
It's something I'd like to see, but I don't expect to see much of it in the near future, and I'm OK with that.
Because of hardways and hop bets, the boxman (or whoever) would need to enter the exact roll. That would require either pushing two buttons, or pushing one button on a panel that had a button for each of the 21 unique combinations .Quote: thecesspitBox man presses one of 11 buttons after each roll. How hard could it be if he had the buttons lined up in front of him?
The ShowBoat in A.C. had that for a while, for a long roll of the week contest. The problem was, the boxman often forgot to push the button, so he would occasionally push it several times, guessing at how many rolls he missed.Quote: fremont4ever... the Fremont has a counter at their tables that keeps track of how many rolls the current shooter has had since the last 7-out. If they can do that, something like the electronic board as discussed here shouldn't be all that complicated.
I was keeping track. His accuracy could easily be described as crappy.
I hit the bonus again with my last $2 and "set" both die on Aces, I went on 22 rolls before "7ing" out. Turned $2 into $79. The slot machine keeps track of the last roll on the bonus feature; so when I walked away it showed that I had 22 total rolls. The tracking of rolls is a nice touch and I'd love to see a tracking measure like this at an actual Craps table.
2) It wouldn't be too hard or expensive to put a small video camera near the center of the table. Next the stick man would pull the dice without changing the way they rolled (which would be a bit difficult) to the camera before passing them back to the shooter. This can go on while bets are paid.
Didn't the NGC approve remote betting in some forms? this would be the way to do it for craps.
Alan Mendelson
2:00pm March 17, 2012 just in case I had the idea first and someone else tries to copyright or trademark it. LOL
Quote: DJTeddyBearThe ShowBoat in A.C. had that for a while, for a long roll of the week contest. The problem was, the boxman often forgot to push the button, so he would occasionally push it several times, guessing at how many rolls he missed.
I was keeping track. His accuracy could easily be described as crappy.
The Fremont has been doing this for awhile, continuously, so I think their accuracy is a little better. Not perfect, though.
Quote: MidwestAPI'm sure they can figure a way to imbed microchips in the die and then when they bring them to the middle of the table, a sensor in the table above the prop bets could electronically record the roll. If it's cost effective is a different discussion.
The problem with adding a microchip is making it small enough so that it wouldn't unbalance the die.
Boxman can push two buttons out of six easily enough if tracking the hardways is also important (which I guess it is). This isnt hard to do. It is probably not worth the electronics and hassle all in though. But I dont see the data entry bit being the hurdle.
yes, it could put the dice off balance, but Im sure that can be resolved with equally wheighted chips using RFID technology.
The bigger issue is when a "judgment call" has to be made based on a die's position. Do you let the technology make the call or a boxman or dealer make the call? That would be interesting, wouldn't it??
Quote: MidwestAPI'm sure they can figure a way to imbed microchips in the die and then when they bring them to the middle of the table, a sensor in the table above the prop bets could electronically record the roll. If it's cost effective is a different discussion.
Craps players are notoriously conservative. If you change something to the dice, there will be people who will be paranoid. You may lose as many players as you attract. It's better to let people scribble into a notebook, and keep their own data.
I don't think all this effort would be worth it. Maybe for Rapid craps or whatever, but nothing else...
The Wizard doesn't allow deep linking to his photos. The Brezhev pic is a placeholder.Quote: DocIs there a link error, or has the site been hijacked, or is there some joke I don't get? What I get at that link is a picture of Brezhnev with the caption, "This site is decadent and weak."Quote: Ayecarumba... edit: Yep, here it is
Quote: fremont4everIt's not completely what you're looking for, but the Fremont has a counter at their tables that keeps track of how many rolls the current shooter has had since the last 7-out. If they can do that, something like the electronic board as discussed here shouldn't be all that complicated. Probably more difficult to study at a glance.
It's something I'd like to see, but I don't expect to see much of it in the near future, and I'm OK with that.
I have watched them, and they screw it up a lot. I would imagine there are many rolls that do not have a correct total, especially if they go into the double digits.
Quote: teddysThe Wizard doesn't allow deep linking to his photos. The Brezhev pic is a placeholder.Quote: DocIs there a link error, or has the site been hijacked, or is there some joke I don't get? What I get at that link is a picture of Brezhnev with the caption, "This site is decadent and weak."Quote: Ayecarumba... edit: Yep, here it is
Something fishy is going on.
When I clicked on the link, I got the "decadent" photo.
When I added "www." to the url, I got the intended photo.
When I then clicked on the link, I got the intended photo.
Quote: gamblerWould craps receive more action if they add an electronic board which shows the last 25 (or more) rolls?
I am thinking something similar to roulette or baccarat. It could show both dice, so people could see how many hardways were rolled.
Would "craps" receive more action, no I don't think it would.
Could this push more action towards the center-bets based on "lots of 7s," or some other large/small amount of player favorite combos, it might.
An issue I see is that there isn't a great deal of room to put this on a craps table. Roulette can put it behind the wheel, but in craps nearly every square inch is needed for players or dealers.
I don't think space is an issue.Quote: AZDuffmanAn issue I see is that there isn't a great deal of room to put this on a craps table. Roulette can put it behind the wheel, but in craps nearly every square inch is needed for players or dealers.
The control panel doesn't need to be big. Heck, just a small row of buttons along the rail where the boxman sits. No big deal. The monitor can be ceiling mounted.
In SIC BO they use three dice and press three buttons all the time.
Quote:Something fishy is going on.
When I clicked on the link, I got the "decadent" photo.
Because the HTTP Referer (sic) header is set to a different site than wizardofmacau.com.
Quote:When I added "www." to the url, I got the intended photo.
Because this would cause your browser to not send an HTTP Referer because you directly entered the URL.
All you should really need to do is copy the link and paste it into the browser's location bar and reload.
Quote:When I then clicked on the link, I got the intended photo.
Are you sure? If this happened it probably has something to do with your browser's cache.
This might be an oversight. It might be beneficial to allow linking images from and among wizardardofvegas.com, wizardofmacau.com and wizardofodds.com.
Quote: DocI have seen someone pull a chair up to a table, but (other than tubs) I don't think I have seen a table already set up with chairs all around.
We have to get you to Bill's so you can stare at the Rapid Craps table. If memory serves, 10 or 12 people seat around it. And when i was there last, two years ago, you could stand up to shoot (you pretty much had to).
Quote: DocNareed, when I was there last June, I didn't see them operating a Rapid Craps table. Do they still have one going? Instead, I was bleeding cash at their standard crap table.
Really? As far as I knew it was still there. You can't miss it, either, as it's right by the Strip entrance. Their website has prominent links to it, too. So I should assume it's still there.
Yep.Quote: DocNareed, when I was there last June, I didn't see them operating a Rapid Craps table. Do they still have one going? Instead, I was bleeding cash at their standard crap table.
Was just there 2 weeks ago.
The Rapid Craps table opens every day at noon.
They always have 2 dealers working the game, most times, and this helps out the newbies with a small learning curve on using the touch screen to make your bets. Once the basics are down, IMO using the touch screen is very simple.
There are 14 terminals and it is easier to shoot the dice standing up but you can sitting down also.
Quote: DJTeddyBearThat's because Sic-Bo has so many ways to bet, and so many of which are winners and all others are losers, that doing it electronically is the fastest method.
I know that, but the issue raised was that it would be too difficult to push two buttons at the crap table.
Quote: CrapsForeverThere are new slot machines here in South Florida called "Hot Roll". I'm not a fan of Slot machines but I LOVE Craps so I'll play anything Craps related. It's basically like any regular slot machine however when you reach the bonus stage by having 3 "Hot Rolls" symbols line up on the screen, you get to "roll" dice on the screen, you keep acquiring bonuses until you "7" out. Have any of you guys played it? It's really cool. You get to "set" the dice by pressing on the screen on the two die until you get the dice set you like, then you drag the dice back by tugging on the screen and pushing forward; it looks very realistic. I played it yesterday at a Casino Miami in Miami yesterday, first time I hit the bonus I "threw" the dice randomly and 7'ed out on my 3rd roll.
I hit the bonus again with my last $2 and "set" both die on Aces, I went on 22 rolls before "7ing" out. Turned $2 into $79. The slot machine keeps track of the last roll on the bonus feature; so when I walked away it showed that I had 22 total rolls. The tracking of rolls is a nice touch and I'd love to see a tracking measure like this at an actual Craps table.
I started with $20...First time the bonus feature hit, I let the dice roll automatically and 7'ed out on my 3rd roll. Down to my last $3, I hit the Bonus feature again playing a total of $0.80 per roll and decided to "set" the Dice on Aces which gave me good luck last time; I went on 39 ROLLS (Highest I have ever seen) before 7ing out. Turned my last $3 to $106. This is my favorite Slot Machine EVER! It really feels like I'm playing Craps.
Has anyone else played this Slot Machine?
