Vegas-Craps Rules for Place Bets
I am new to the forum and new to craps too. I have been reading various websites on rules of craps as well as playing some online free craps (including on this website). I have a doubt on when place bets can be made and would appreciate if experts here could help me.
My understanding is that the place bet can be made anytime and you win if the number you have bet on comes before seven. If seven comes before the number then you lose. The place bet has nothing to do with establishing a point etc and you can ignore everything else on the table. Just watch out for which number you want to make a place bet on and whether seven is thrown before or after that number. Moreover, there is no commission charged for this bet and the casino advantage is built in the payoffs. The online game at Bovada lets me play this way. However, the online craps game at wizardofvegas does not let me make a place bet before a point is established.
Can someone confirm the place bet rules for craps in Vegas (on the strip).
Also, which casino on the strip has the cheapest craps table (for place bets). I read somewhere that Bill's gambling has a rapidpoker machine where you can bet in dollars and not have to worry about betting 5/6 dollar multiples for place bets.
Is there any other casino in vegas with rapid poker.
Thanks
Quote: greenmaxMy understanding is that the place bet can be made anytime and you win if the number you have bet on comes before seven. If seven comes before the number then you lose. The place bet has nothing to do with establishing a point etc and you can ignore everything else on the table. Just watch out for which number you want to make a place bet on and whether seven is thrown before or after that number. Moreover, there is no commission charged for this bet and the casino advantage is built in the payoffs. The online game at Bovada lets me play this way. However, the online craps game at wizardofvegas does not let me make a place bet before a point is established.
Your understanding is correct, except if you are the only person at the table. In this case, you are usually required to make a bet on either the Pass Line or the Don't Pass. As long as you walk up to an occupied table and other people are shooting, you should be able to make as many place bets as you want at any time without any other bets.
On come-out rolls, usually the place bets are turned off. Since the table is rooting for a seven, you wouldn't want those place bets to lose. But you can always choose to have them turned on.
Nevada casino rules are place bets can be made before any roll of the dice.Quote: AcesAndEightsOn come-out rolls, usually the place bets are turned off. Since the table is rooting for a seven, you wouldn't want those place bets to lose. But you can always choose to have them turned on.
But the rules also state that they are "off" or not working, they can not win or lose, on the come out roll.
If the player wants them to win on a come out roll, and many do, the player MUST tell the dealer he wants his place bet(s) working on the come out roll.
The Dealer should "book the bet" by repeating out loud what the player just said and place an "on" lammer on one of the players place bets, if time permits.
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Quote: greenmaxHi,
I am new to the forum and new to craps too. I have been reading various websites on rules of craps as well as playing some online free craps (including on this website). I have a doubt on when place bets can be made and would appreciate if experts here could help me.
My understanding is that the place bet can be made anytime and you win if the number you have bet on comes before seven. If seven comes before the number then you lose. The place bet has nothing to do with establishing a point etc and you can ignore everything else on the table. Just watch out for which number you want to make a place bet on and whether seven is thrown before or after that number. Moreover, there is no commission charged for this bet and the casino advantage is built in the payoffs. The online game at Bovada lets me play this way. However, the online craps game at wizardofvegas does not let me make a place bet before a point is established.
Can someone confirm the place bet rules for craps in Vegas (on the strip).
Also, which casino on the strip has the cheapest craps table (for place bets). I read somewhere that Bill's gambling has a rapidpoker machine where you can bet in dollars and not have to worry about betting 5/6 dollar multiples for place bets.
Is there any other casino in vegas with rapid poker.
Thanks
Gold strike (just outside of vegas on I15 heading west) has a craps machine that allows 1$ place bets and pays odds in cents.
Jokers Wild in Henderson (about 10 min from downtown vegas) let's you place $1 on place bets, and to get odds you need $1.50 on 6 and 8 (I think....). Someone on here mentioned that many Henderson casinos allows this 0.25 craps.
Quote: mustangsallyA few downtown casino have $3 tables. I played at the Freemont and can make $3 place bets.
Sally
Note that at most joints, $3 place bets do not have the same proportional payout as $5 (or $6 in the case of the 6 or 8) place bets. Be sure to ask.
Also, please be advised that if you already have a place bet up, on the come out roll, the dealer will ask you where to move it if it becomes the point. It is unusual for players to leave it up (known as "placing the point,") since it is better to take the money and put odds on your Passline bet.
Aruze Gaming - SHOOT TO WIN CRAPSQuote: slackyhackyGold strike (just outside of vegas on I15 heading west) has a craps machine that allows 1$ place bets and pays odds in cents.
Jokers Wild in Henderson (about 10 min from downtown vegas) let's you place $1 on place bets, and to get odds you need $1.50 on 6 and 8 (I think....). Someone on here mentioned that many Henderson casinos allows this 0.25 craps.
I played it at Gold strike.
Also at the NY,NY and MGM.
I think a few have also mentioned that a few other casinos have it.
A pop-o-matic dice roll.
Min bets $1 and it rounds down to a one cent payoff.
It has no provisions of making across or inside place bets all at the same time.
That sucks!
You only have 20 seconds to make your bets.
Quote: 7crapsAruze Gaming - SHOOT TO WIN CRAPS
I played it at Gold strike.
Also at the NY,NY and MGM.
I think a few have also mentioned that a few other casinos have it.
A pop-o-matic dice roll.
Min bets $1 and it rounds down to a one cent payoff.
It has no provisions of making across or inside place bets all at the same time.
That sucks!
You only have 20 seconds to make your bets.
Thanks for the reply. Since I am new at craps, can you explain to me what an across or inside place bet is.
Quote: greenmaxThanks for the reply. Since I am new at craps, can you explain to me what an across or inside place bet is.
It's just a shortcut for making multiple place bets at the same time. Inside is the middle 4 numbers; across is all of them. $5 each on 5, 9 + $6 each on 6,8 = $22 inside. Normally you omit the established point, so if the point is 6, "inside" would be $16 on the 5, 8, 9. Across just adds the 4 and 10.
But that assumes that you have a passline bet.Quote: AyecarumbaAlso, please be advised that if you already have a place bet up, on the come out roll, the dealer will ask you where to move it if it becomes the point. It is unusual for players to leave it up (known as "placing the point,") since it is better to take the money and put odds on your Passline bet.
For the record, one of the problems with Rapid Craps is that the buttons for "Across", "Inside" and "Outside" don't place the point, even if you don't have a passline bet. Kinda aggrevating.
Quote: Ayecarumba
Also, please be advised that if you already have a place bet up, on the come out roll, the dealer will ask you where to move it if it becomes the point. It is unusual for players to leave it up (known as "placing the point,") since it is better to take the money and put odds on your Passline bet.
I'ts only better if you have money on the passline. It's a better bet if you were playing for the 7 on the come out. If you are just playing numbers, place bet is better.
On the passline, Even though your odds gets true odds, much of the percentage of your bet is getting even money. All of your money on a place bet is getting odds, although beit less odds, it still works out to more than the place bet.
I think the difference switches at around 7x odds for a 6 or 8 and 6x odds for the others.
yes, it shows.Quote: greenmaxHi,
I am new to the forum and new to craps too.
Thanks
have fun playing.
One thing to learn about place bets is the term you will hear a lot
"press"
To a dice dealer or craps dealer it means to double the bet.
You have $6 on the SIX and it his, you can tell the dealer to press and he will know exactly what you mean. You do not have to say press to $12.
Many will have a $12 place6 and say after a hit, press to $18.
OK. it works.
I teach my players to say "go up to". because press has always meant to double.
When you play, tell your dealer you are new. Tip $1. set it on the table and say it is for the dealers to have.
You are now a "George" and the dealers will help you thru your first sessions. Well, maybe not all the older ones. They are jaded and want to stay that way.
I am an ex Reno-dice dealer.
Quote: 7crapsWRONG>
One can NOT compare a 2 stage pass line bet with odds wirh place bets.
It is against the law.
STOP NOW
$5 pass with $25 odds.
only $5 pays even money?
How green are you wackyslacky?
so i did my math wrong, it's 5x odds (for 6 and 8) when it becomes even and 4x (for the rest). Sheesh...
Actually I didn't do it "wrong", I just didn't do it..I was guessing. When I finally part of it, it turns out to be the above.
Remember, I'm not comparing 2 stage pass line, just comparing if someone comes up and the point is made and they can either place $5 pass line, then place odds, or just place the number, it is better to place the number unless you are going to play more than the odds I mentioned.
And when I say "people", I mean my girlfriend. And despite my explaining this, she still does it. Ha. Well if not wining that extra dollar is that important to her.....
Quote: slackyhackyI think it is an important distinction because I see people who play the don't pass, then when the point hits six or 8, they move their DP bet to the pass line. In this case, a place bet on the number is a better bet.
You can't move your DP to the pass line. Yes, you can REMOVE your DP (which is dumb and in the casino's favor, not yours). You can't just add money to the passline after a point has been established.
Edit:
Oh, I see, you mean after the point is 6/8, than it is resolved, by either point or seven. They start playing lightside. Gotcha. :)
Quote: YoDiceRoll11You can't move your DP to the pass line. Yes, you can REMOVE your DP (which is dumb and in the casino's favor, not yours). You can't just add money to the passline after a point has been established.
Edit:
Oh, I see, you mean after the point is 6/8, than it is resolved, by either point or seven. They start playing lightside. Gotcha. :)
I suspect he does mean moving the wager from don't pass to pass right after the 6 or 8 point is established. And yes you can add to the pass wager after the point is established. It's not particularly wise to do so, but you can.
However, if a shooter rolled craps a lot, then the point...playing the DP, then switching it to the Pass Line, would be smart...win on craps
, then win on point-winner...
Quote: DocI suspect he does mean moving the wager from don't pass to pass right after the 6 or 8 point is established. And yes you can add to the pass wager after the point is established. It's not particularly wise to do so, but you can.
Ah, I must have been thinking the reverse, adding to the DP. Thanks.
(whether it is PL or DC). If I can move it, would it be wise to? Also does the DC bet get payed at even money like the PL bet( I know the odds portion gets paid accordingly)?
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The Don't Pass, pays even money, just like the Pass line.
Clearly if you place money on the Pass line and a point is established, you cannot take it off, this is a contract bet. But if you place money on the Don't Pass, once you get past the 8 to 3 odds of losing on the come out, you have a clear advantage of keeping your money on the don't pass. So the casino will let you remove, or move your don't pass bet after a point is established.
Yes, the don't come and don't pass wagers are paid at even money, not counting the free odds wagers.
Edit: Ooops. Slow typing again.
Add to a Pass or Come after the point is established? Yep. You can do that too.
Add to a Don't or remove a Pass? No way, no how.
Now that you know the rules, ask yourself this question: Why does the casino allow it? Short answer: Because it's in their best interest to allow it. In other words, it's dumb to do it.
(Of course, if you follow that logic to it's ultimate conclusion, it's also dumb to step into a casino...)
Quote: DJTeddyBearRemove a Don't Pass or Don't Come. Yep. You can do it.
Add to a Pass or Come after the point is established? Yep. You can do that too.
Add to a Don't or remove a Pass? No way, no how.
Now that you know the rules, ask yourself this question: Why does the casino allow it? Short answer: Because it's in their best interest to allow it. In other words, it's dumb to do it.
(Of course, if you follow that logic to it's ultimate conclusion, it's also dumb to step into a casino...)
That is exactly why I can't figure out why online casinos won't allow it.
I wil occasionally see someone add money to their pass line bet instead of the odds. That is what's dumb to do if you ask me.
There is probably some online casino that is smart enough to allow it. Maybe it is too hard for them to program it or something. Go figure.
