craps at the new cosmo

I was in vegas this past wekeend. Went to the new Cosmopolitan casino to throw some dice. First off the dealers were very friendly they did not care if you took some time to set the dice or if you consistently hit the backwall. This is because you needed a slingshot to get them there. The tables are long enough to land a small plane on. The tables are so bouncy the dice scooted around like a scalded monkey. Also the rubber pyramids do not have the flat at the bottom they are angled right down to the felt or whatever the hell it is that makes those dice bounce. So in other words if you are practicing dice control this would not be the place to go. Do go however to see it. It is quite beautiful. Video poker is not good either. I also went downtown got grief at the 4 queens for dice setting and not hitting the backwall with both dice every time. The tables there need some TLC to say they are worn is an understatement the Golden Nugget was great. VP was good at the $ queens

Quote: MrRalph

I also went downtown got grief at the 4 queens for dice setting and not hitting the backwall with both dice every time.

4 Queens doesn't go easy on you, some of the pit crew looks like they've been there since the 70's. They especially don't like counters, some of the pictures they have on the ones they've caught are 30 years old.

In my past several visits to Golden Nuggett over the last couple years I've set dice without any criticism whatsoever from the dealers. BTW, their tables are reasonable length but boy are they bouncy too. Nice place though, I'm gonna be back there over the 4th...

I played at Golden Nugget right after the dinner with the Wizard and gofaster87 that followed WoVCon. I set the dice every time I rolled them, even though I have often stated that I am not so stupid as to believe that has any influence on how they stop at the other end of the table. No complaints from anyone. And I was actually having the best hands there of any session I had on the entire trip. My first turn, I rolled six straight comeout 7s followed by four straight 9s. Next hand I started with an 11 then hit four or five points. It was fun.

The dealers were all very friendly, perhaps because I was the lowest roller at the table and the only one toking. I discussed that fact with the dealer standing next to me. He said they all note and appreciate even the small tokes I make, but the "stiff" nature of that table that night was typical. He called it the worst game in their house for the dealers.

Back to the original topic of this thread, the Cosmopolitan. I noted in another thread that when I visited there on Friday night 6/10, the crap tables were a mix of $25 minimum and $100 minimum. Was it the same this past weekend when you played there, MrRalph?

I was there early Saturday afternoon and they also had $10 tables. I did not see any $100 tables at that time. There was one full table but I did not note its denomination.

I was in Vegas last month and I wanted to stop by the Cosmo but never did. Did you notice any other table games like BJ rules or table minimums. Do they have a lot of tables?

It is a small casino surrounded by small clubs on multiple levels. It has what I consider some high end appointments, with a lot of people there obviously attending to be seen.

I have already noted the high minimums on the crap tables when I was there on a Friday night this month, and the same was true on the blackjack tables that I saw. I noticed $200 and $500 minimum blackjack tables, though there likely were also some at lower levels. I didn't play anything, and I didn't look at the blackjack rules. My feeling is that you shouldn't head there on a Friday night (or Saturday night?) unless you have a hefty bankroll. Last December I played at a $10 crap table on a Thursday mid-day, the day after the grand opening.

Yes, I agree, it is not the place for a modest bankroll on Friday or Saturday night. The only other game I noticed was Spanish 21 because I like that game. I refuse to play a 6/5 Black jack so with the right rules Spanish 21 is a better game. I am sorry I did not note the table rules for any of the table games as the people I was with wanted to shoot some dice and just take a walk through. After seeing trying the dice tables we left.

I heard it is a very nice casino, but it is already having financial issues. Does anyone know if they are serious or just newbie growing pains?

Quote: hook3670

I heard it is a very nice casino, but it is already having financial issues. Does anyone know if they are serious or just newbie growing pains?

When I was there a week ago (thursday at about 2pm) it was pretty much a sea of empty overpriced tables and machines. I wanted to a) spin through the $10 freeplay they gave me when I signed up for their players club and b) set a few hands of Pai Gow Poker. There were 2 open Pai Gow Poker tables, each with a $50 minimum. Neither had a single player at the table. I had a very hard time finding a slot machine that wasn't ridiculous to spin through the free play on. I finally sat down at a 20 line machine, figuring it'd be $.02 or $.05 denominated. Nope, $1. So, betting 10 per line on 20 lines (the machine's max) would be $200/pull. Seems like an odd machine to have out on the floor. No wonder nobody was playing anything anywhere near it.

The Cosmo is a nice casino. But it's 2 times as expensive as Bellagio, and 4/5ths as nice...and 200 yards away. I'm just not sure how they think that's going to work out for them.

If those are the minimums on a Thursday afternoon, I think they have wayyy over shot the market. Most everything these days is being downsized. Even the super fancy restaurants are closing due to lack of business and reopening as upscale bistros. I can not see, especially with all of the competition on the strip, how they can possibly survive. Two PGP tables at $50 on a Thursday day. No wonder noone was playing. What are they on a wekend night, $100-$250 minimums. They may either get bought out or will have to seriously readjust their philosophy to survive IMHO.

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Yes, I agree, beautiful to look at but not very functional. I too will spend my time at the Bellagio given my choice between the two. I could not even get my free play to work. They have another promo if you lose $100 in a 24hr period then they will give you another $100 to play with. You cannot use it with any other offer so I f you use the $10 free play you cannot do the other for another 24hrs. I believe the Cosmo was finished by a Dutch bank. Do not know their financial status but They are in a tough area with the Bellagio on one side and the Aria on the other.

Quote: MrRalph

I believe the Cosmo was finished by a Dutch bank.

Close, German. Deutche Bank, to be specific. :).