craps at Talking Stick Casino , Scottsdale Az
i was at the new casino and was looking for a craps table, but they only had a electronic sitdown version with about 8 places to sit and the dice roll and tumble on a picture screen above you.
I was wondering if anyone has played this type of craps and if you can get a fair (roll) with RNG
thx,
That won't stop you from losing a ton if you get unlucky, like I did when a local casino had that game (since gone).
Quote: yolevenHey everybody,
i was at the new casino and was looking for a craps table, but they only had a electronic sitdown version with about 8 places to sit and the dice roll and tumble on a picture screen above you.
I was wondering if anyone has played this type of craps and if you can get a fair (roll) with RNG
thx,
A RNG should be fair, but get used to it. Live dice games are banned in AZ.
Quote: AZDuffmanA RNG should be fair, but get used to it. Live dice games are banned in AZ.
Currently. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up changing at some point time. After all, blackjack was banned at one point in time as well.
Quote: konceptumCurrently. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up changing at some point time. After all, blackjack was banned at one point in time as well.
Does anyone know WHY dice games are banned? Is it harder to protect a dice game then a card game? I think roulette is also out.
PS: The same is true in California, but I never try to make sense of CA.
Quote: DrEntropyDoes anyone know WHY dice games are banned? Is it harder to protect a dice game then a card game? I think roulette is also out.
PS: The same is true in California, but I never try to make sense of CA.
As for California, the outcome of the allowed table games must be "card based". Slots are excepted by compact with tribal organizations.
Quote: EvenBobTalking Stick? Thats the best name they could come up with? Whats wrong with Buffalo Dung, or Cuddly Coyote?
Apparently "Please Don't Drive to Laughlin" didn't test-market well.
I was just in Laughlin over memorial day weekend, actually. What a strange crowd.
Quote: EvenBobTalking Stick? Thats the best name they could come up with? Whats wrong with Buffalo Dung, or Cuddly Coyote?
Well, "Casino Moron(go)" was already taken:
Yes! I was there Friday. I tried to check in, but had forgotten my ID in Las Vegas, and they wouldn't let me check in so I had to drive back to Vegas. Incidentally, Searchlight is a nice town.Quote: 7outlineawayI was just in Laughlin over memorial day weekend, actually. What a strange crowd.
What did they do, let out the entire hoodie hooligan brigade at once? I've never seen so many rolling coolers in my life.
Suddenly, I no longer have a desire to visit Laughlin.
Quote: teddysSuddenly, I no longer have a desire to visit Laughlin.
That road construction on the Strip -- down to one lane in each direction over Memorial Day weekend -- didn't make life any better.
It's an interesting place to visit... once. No, every casino besides Harrah's, I will *not* be needing a player's card.
Quote: konceptumCurrently. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up changing at some point time. After all, blackjack was banned at one point in time as well.
State laws are weird that way, but if PA can actually get decent casinos anything is possible. I think AZ has a strong Mormon Caucus in their government that might make liberalizing rules difficult.
One thing I was thinking about while driving around today was the concept of games not being able to be determined by dice or a random ball (like craps or roulette). However, bingo is allowed. I know that bingo falls into its own category and lots of special rules surround it, but basically it is a game that is determined by 75 random balls. How that makes it any different from roulette is beyond me. I wouldn't be surprised if someone used that argument to get roulette allowed.
Quote: konceptumTrue, but there was a point when blackjack wasn't allowed either. After they got blackjack allowed, they worked on getting other table card games (Let It Ride, Three Card Poker, PaiGow Poker, etc). The Indian casinos' lobbyists are pretty smart in that they don't try to get everything approved all at once. They get one thing approved, and then let things sit for a while, before trying on the next thing.
One thing I was thinking about while driving around today was the concept of games not being able to be determined by dice or a random ball (like craps or roulette). However, bingo is allowed. I know that bingo falls into its own category and lots of special rules surround it, but basically it is a game that is determined by 75 random balls. How that makes it any different from roulette is beyond me. I wouldn't be surprised if someone used that argument to get roulette allowed.
As I understand it in Florida, Bingo opened the door for casino action on the Indian reservations. Indians opened Bingo parlors.. other non-profits already had Bingo nights. Indian Bingo grew to huge games with very high stakes... The State tried to shut them down, claiming gambling was "prohibited", but the courts ruled in favor of the tribes, reasoning that non-profit's were allowed to have bingo, so gambling wasn't "prohibited'; it was, "regulated".
Yes, and a famous Supreme Court case called Seminole Tribe of Florida v. Florida arose out of the controversy. When the Tribe tried to sue the State (usually not allowed because states have sovereign immunity), the lower courts forced the State to negotiate with the Tribe, but the S.C. said the sovereign immunity of the State still applies.Quote: AyecarumbaAs I understand it in Florida, Bingo opened the door for casino action on the Indian reservations. Indians opened Bingo parlors.. other non-profits already had Bingo nights. Indian Bingo grew to huge games with very high stakes... The State tried to shut them down, claiming gambling was "prohibited", but the courts ruled in favor of the tribes, reasoning that non-profit's were allowed to have bingo, so gambling wasn't "prohibited'; it was, "regulated".
Very interesting case. The IGRA was a huge clusterfuck, just look at all the Jack Abramoff stuff.
And to allow all kinds of people to run Bingo games, including churches, VFW's, Elks, etc, etc, really doesn't make any sense. But then again, neither does allowing the state to run a lottery while prohibiting other forms of gambling. Gambling is gambling.
Then again, nobody cares what I think. That's why I drive to Nevada.
