Lay Bet 6/8 Derivation on
November 8th, 2025 at 5:16:31 AM
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Question on this calculation:
/games/craps/appendix/1/
Under "Lay Bets"
(1) I'm wondering if this should be
Because of the vig being paid upfront. This would align it with the other two calculations which do include the vig:
(2) Better yet, use a number that is evenly divisible by 6, so the payout is better:
This would align with other calculations such as the Place to Win.
(3) If so, this page would also need updating:
/games/craps/appendix/2/
- Change the house edge per bet resolved from 4.00% to 3.23%
- Change the house edge per roll from 1.22% to 0.99%
But someone please check my work :)
Thanks.
/games/craps/appendix/1/
Under "Lay Bets"
Lay bet to lose on 6 or 8: [(6/11)×19 + (5/11)×(-25)]/25 = (-11/11)/25 = -1/25 ≈ -4.000%
(1) I'm wondering if this should be
[(6/11)×19 + (5/11)×(-26)]/26 ≈ -0.0559
Because of the vig being paid upfront. This would align it with the other two calculations which do include the vig:
Lay bet to lose on 5 or 9: [(6/10)×19 + (4/10)×(-31)]/31 = (-10/10)/31 = -1/31 = -3.226%
Lay bet to lose on 4 or 10: [(6/9)×19 + (3/9)×(-41)]/41 = (-9/9)/41 = -1/41 ≈ -2.439%
(2) Better yet, use a number that is evenly divisible by 6, so the payout is better:
PER BET RESOLVED:
((6/11)×24+ (5/11)×(-31))/31 ≈ -0.03226
PER ROLL:
> ((6/36)*24+ (5/36)*(-31))/31
[1] -0.009856631
This would align with other calculations such as the Place to Win.
(3) If so, this page would also need updating:
/games/craps/appendix/2/
- Change the house edge per bet resolved from 4.00% to 3.23%
- Change the house edge per roll from 1.22% to 0.99%
But someone please check my work :)
Thanks.
November 8th, 2025 at 6:53:58 AM
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You pay $25 (vig upfront) and $24 gets layed on the 6,8 and it pays $20 for a 1/1.2 payout.
