October 21st, 2024 at 2:55:09 PM
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I'm trying to understand this page: wizardofodds (dot) com (slash) games/craps/basics/
Towards the bottom, under "Summary of Multi-Roll Bets"
The Hard 4 and 10 (US) row shows that the average number of rolls is 3.27. This would be 11 ways to roll out of 36 ways (36/11=3.27)
But I am deriving 9 ways to resolve a hard 4 (2-2, 1-3, 3-1, and the six sevens). This would be 36/9=4 rolls average to resolve a hard 4.
I'm wondering where the discrepancy is?
Towards the bottom, under "Summary of Multi-Roll Bets"
The Hard 4 and 10 (US) row shows that the average number of rolls is 3.27. This would be 11 ways to roll out of 36 ways (36/11=3.27)
But I am deriving 9 ways to resolve a hard 4 (2-2, 1-3, 3-1, and the six sevens). This would be 36/9=4 rolls average to resolve a hard 4.
I'm wondering where the discrepancy is?
October 21st, 2024 at 4:31:43 PM
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/basics/
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Convenient link, courteously provided
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October 21st, 2024 at 4:45:40 PM
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The hard 4 is the 2-2 and is a 1 in 36 roll. The two other 4's (1-3, 3-1) are easy and are 1 in 18 hops. How long it actually takes for the number to show up could be 100 to 200+ rolls, so watch out.
Hard hops — Pays 30-1 on any specific double, for example 1-1 or 4-4.
Easy hops — Pays 15-1 on any specific combination of two different faces, for example 1-3 or 4-5.
Hard hops — Pays 30-1 on any specific double, for example 1-1 or 4-4.
Easy hops — Pays 15-1 on any specific combination of two different faces, for example 1-3 or 4-5.
October 21st, 2024 at 7:43:41 PM
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Quote: dicedataI'm trying to understand this page: wizardofodds (dot) com (slash) games/craps/basics/
Towards the bottom, under "Summary of Multi-Roll Bets"
The Hard 4 and 10 (US) row shows that the average number of rolls is 3.27. This would be 11 ways to roll out of 36 ways (36/11=3.27)
But I am deriving 9 ways to resolve a hard 4 (2-2, 1-3, 3-1, and the six sevens). This would be 36/9=4 rolls average to resolve a hard 4.
I'm wondering where the discrepancy is?
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Here's the link you gave: https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/basics/.
You're right--in the table called "Multi-Roll Bets in Craps," the average rolls for the hard 4 bet should be 4 and not 3.27 (or 3.60.) For the hard 4, the typos have 3.27 for the US and 3.60 for Australia.
In that table, all the bets involving 4 or 10 should be 4 rolls. The bets involving 5 or 9 should be 3.60, and those involving 6 or 8 should be 3.27.
October 21st, 2024 at 7:44:40 PM
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Thank you for the correction.
I agree the average rolls to resolve a hard 4 or 10 bet is 4.00.
I agree the average rolls to resolve a hard 4 or 10 bet is 4.00.
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