Is there a way to modify pass/DP bet so no house edge?

Good afternoon!

My buddies and I like to get together, drink some beers and shoot some dice on weekends. We take turns being “the bank” and we pay true odds on all bets. Is there a (practical) way to modify the payouts on pass line and don’t pass so there is Zero house edge? We have just eliminated those bets from our sessions b/c of the unequal odds


Thank you!

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Good afternoon!

My buddies and I like to get together, drink some beers and shoot some dice on weekends. We take turns being “the bank” and we pay true odds on all bets. Is there a (practical) way to modify the payouts on pass line and don’t pass so there is Zero house edge? We have just eliminated those bets from our sessions b/c of the unequal odds


Thank you!
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have you consulted an AI yet?

You have a house edge of 1.414% on that bet. If you modify the come out roll to only lose half a unit if a 2 is rolled for craps, you would get back 0.013889% in edge, making the new edge basically zero at 0.025%. You could do the opposite on the don't come/pass and have the 2 only pay half a unit in that scenario.

You can get perfectly fair odds for the pass line bets by adjusting the pass line payouts for rolling a 12 upwards to make up the house edge. You get pretty close to 100% RTP by paying a half unit on Pass and 1.5 units for Don't Pass. The exact number is not a convenient fraction for purposes of payouts.

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You have a house edge of 1.414% on that bet. If you modify the come out roll to only lose half a unit if a 2 is rolled for craps, you would get back 0.013889% in edge, making the new edge basically zero at 0.025%. You could do the opposite on the don't come/pass and have the 2 only pay half a unit in that scenario.
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Does the math really work out that way though? It seems simple enough, but I know the probability gets complex with these multi-roll bets with multiple win-lose scenarios.

What about this; on a come-out roll 12, the Passline only loses 1/2 a unit and the Don’t Pass wins 1/2 unit?

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You have a house edge of 1.414% on that bet. If you modify the come out roll to only lose half a unit if a 2 is rolled for craps, you would get back 0.013889% in edge, making the new edge basically zero at 0.025%. You could do the opposite on the don't come/pass and have the 2 only pay half a unit in that scenario.
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Ment
Does the math really work out that way though? It seems simple enough, but I know the probability gets complex with these multi-roll bets with multiple win-lose scenarios.

What about this; on a come-out roll 12, the Passline only loses 1/2 a unit and the Don’t Pass wins 1/2 unit?
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the half unit changes the house edge by 1/72, or 1.3889% which is very close to the actual house edge of these bets. So ya you could do it on the 12 instead. I misspoke on the don't pass, as Mental suggests that scenario should pay 3:2 (add an extra half unit) to the payout.