Quote: ChallengedMillyGoing to the casinos this week and plan on bringing about $2500 for some craps shooting. I've been successful with various basic dark side strategies so far, but this trip I wanted to try something different. Does anyone have any particularly interesting, novel, or outlandish dark side strats they'd like for me to try?
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Yes. Find a table with only dark side players and be the shooter.
Then report back.
Why is it most dark siders don't shoot?
Quote: ChallengedMillyGoing to the casinos this week and plan on bringing about $2500 for some craps shooting. I've been successful with various basic dark side strategies so far, but this trip I wanted to try something different. Does anyone have any particularly interesting, novel, or outlandish dark side strats they'd like for me to try?
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$10 table: DP = $10 + $18 odds + $15 on the hard number point, i.e., 4, 6, 8, or 10. Results: 7 out = net $10 win; soft point winner = $28 loss or hard number point winner = $122 win including bring down the hard number bet.
The last three times I played, I hit the hard point winner.
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To help kill the boredom I keep track of how many rolls the shooter has rolled, how many points they have rolled or if they 7 out right away. I also keep track of what numbers has rolled so I have a live visual graph of the frequencies for each number. It helps visualize how the table is going. Favoring the P or DP.
If I'm trying to stay a while I'll only make a DC, that way I can catch a 7 on a come out as well as the 7-out.
A table with only Darksiders would be great!Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ChallengedMillyGoing to the casinos this week and plan on bringing about $2500 for some craps shooting. I've been successful with various basic dark side strategies so far, but this trip I wanted to try something different. Does anyone have any particularly interesting, novel, or outlandish dark side strats they'd like for me to try?
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Yes. Find a table with only dark side players and be the shooter.
Then report back.
Real Craps Players know the answer to that one. If you roll a 7-out [a Darkside winner] the dealers take the dice from you and give it to the next guy. But if you remain the shooter, it's because you are killing yourself by hitting the points Rightside winner, Darkside loser, and Lo the dice keep coming right back to you again and again.Quote:Why is it most dark siders don't shoot?
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If the whole table was Darksiders we could agree to pass the dice back to the guy who is a good shooter our style!
Quote: charliepatrickPersonally I make DP then two DCs. Hopefully there are three numbers and the 7 comes right out. The best result is missing all three. The worst is taking sometime to establish three different numbers.
If I'm trying to stay a while I'll only make a DC, that way I can catch a 7 on a come out as well as the 7-out.
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I use to play that way, playing with multiple numbers. Laying six times behind the number gets damn expensive and again, there will be more combinations to roll to beat you. I’d rather bet big and remain the favorite. Plus you are really risking your bet putting your bet back on the DC. Once I survive that roll, I don’t want to risk doing it again.
Another strategy I’ve used is stop playing once 2 pts are rolled and just wait until a 7 out and start over again. That way you are not risking playing the opposite side when a shooter going to roll 4-6 points
* The biggest one I ever made was thinking it was good to pile up points to resolve. As a Rightsider I would realize a 3 point Molly was the most you should go, otherwise you're putting too much in action. But at the same table, I felt it was good to go even more, and constantly make DP/DC bets to get there. It's an illusion that it's a good idea! It's putting too much in action!
* I'm going to get disagreement possibly, but just because you can go with a higher free odds bet Darkside than you can Rightside doesn't mean you have to! At 3x4x5x in particular this can lead to that kind of thinking. Don't go any higher than you would Rightside approximately. I've recently discovered the HE and the Variance both are lower.
* If the shooter is right next to you, play the DC. That might mollify them a bit, but you'll probably notice they don't like it. On the East Coast nobody will probably say anything, but I did have that happen in Indiana. You have to be ready for it. If you enjoy the group spirit thing, it's going to be gone. But you knew that.