E-Craps “dice controller” smashes DeMango’s challenge

On another website, crapsforum(dot)com, DeMango challenged someone (who claims to have dice control in e-craps) to 360 rolls. To date, the “dice controller” is putting up photos smashing DeMango’s challenge.

The e-crap machines lists the past 15 rolls. So this guy is putting up photos where he rolled twelve (12) — 6, 7, or 8 — in fifteen (15) consecutive rolls. That is a 80% hit ratio.

So far, the guy has put up photos showing:
- 12 for 15
- 11 for 15
- 12 for 15
- 12 for 15
- 14 for 18

That is 61 successful rolls in 78 tries (78.2% success rate). And, in one photo, he was 10 for 10. That means the guy needs 282 more rolls, but due to the already skewed results, if the guy rolls at expectations, the results will be skewed.

The “dice controller” claims he needs to:
- find the e-craps in the “right mode”
- needs to find the the “right sets” (with high correlation to 6, 7, or 8), and
- presses button when he sees the “right sets”

For the record, there are 5 ways to make a “6”, 6 ways to make a “7”, and 5 ways to make a “8” or 16 ways out of 36 combinations assuming the dice are random. 16 out of 36 is 44.44%.

Here’s the punchline, you can’t touch the dice in e-craps.

Lol sample size.

I once saw someone throw 18 yos in a row and lose 30 bj hands in a row on 3 tables.

If I was the "dice controller", and really knew I could do this all the time, I would have kept my mouth shut and just collected the winnings.

I hope DeMango isn't just going by those 'posted on a screen' things

I should probably check out the forum before I make any comments, but I can't resist. I almost feel as if this is a publicity stunt to get people to the site. Perhaps even multiple people in cahoots with eachother.

I don't know how much more could agree with odiousgambit "I would have kept my mouth shut and just collected the winnings."

I have no clue how this can be done by taking pictures or whatever(Again I should probably just check out the forum.) If its happing like I imagine it, I would also agree with odiousgambit, "I hope DeMango isn't just going by those 'posted on a screen' things"

Without a streaming Video or something, I wouldn't trust any of this.

Something sounds fishy.

Quote: AxelWolf

Something sounds fishy.

Yup, previously banned poster. I leave it to BBB to figure out who! Clue: Bi - assed dice!

Quote: GWAE

Lol sample size.

I once saw someone throw 18 yos in a row and lose 30 bj hands in a row on 3 tables.

that was me.
I was playing the Darkside, doing a martindale.

and 30 BJs on 3 tables: 3 massage parlors in a month

Quote: DeMango

Yup, previously banned poster. I leave it to BBB to figure out who! Clue: Bi - assed dice!

thought Ahigh is no longer banned?

Quote: 100xOdds

thought Ahigh is no longer banned?

Nope not Ahigh, who is not banned.

Quote: DeMango

Yup, previously banned poster. I leave it to BBB to figure out who! Clue: Bi - assed dice!

I take it this means this whole thread is total BS?

These were the shooter's posted rolls:

The images won't post here.

He describes himself as a Don't Side player who is good at rolling sevens.

If I read his pics correctly, he rolled seven 7's on the comeout.

6,9,8,7,7,8,7,7,8,9,8,10,6,8,6 Bet $21

7,7,8,7,7,8,9,8,10,6,8,6,7,4,7 Bet $12

6,7,2,9,6,8,7,7,7,8,6,6,6,11 Bet $8

is it against the rules to post where this is or something? if so somebody PM me, I looked a little bit and found nothing

An Electronic Dice Controller. Let that sink in for a second. You too can learn how to press a button at the right time! Next thing you know, Scoblete will have a book out on how millions are being made on EDC!

the OP used the expression "DeMango’s challenge" so I thought there was a bet made

Quote: DeMango

An Electronic Dice Controller. Let that sink in for a second. You too can learn how to press a button at the right time! Next thing you know, Scoblete will have a book out on how millions are being made on EDC!

Do they have tilt sensors like pinball machines? Maybe he shakes it when it looks like a 7 is coming.

Quote: GWAE

Do they have tilt sensors like pinball machines? Maybe he shakes it when it looks like a 7 is coming.

Is it e-craps or Bubble Craps, which I was under the impression was not considered e-Craps as it uses actual dice? Shaking a "true" e-Craps machine has about as much effect as shaking a Video Poker machine.

Quote: CAD2

On another website, crapsforum(dot)com, DeMango challenged someone (who claims to have dice control in e-craps) to 360 rolls. To date, the “dice controller” is putting up photos smashing DeMango’s challenge.

The e-crap machines lists the past 15 rolls. So this guy is putting up photos where he rolled twelve (12) — 6, 7, or 8 — in fifteen (15) consecutive rolls. That is a 80% hit ratio.

So far, the guy has put up photos showing:
- 12 for 15
- 11 for 15
- 12 for 15
- 12 for 15
- 14 for 18

That is 61 successful rolls in 78 tries (78.2% success rate). <snip>

For the record, there are 5 ways to make a “6”, 6 ways to make a “7”, and 5 ways to make a “8” or 16 ways out of 36 combinations assuming the dice are random. 16 out of 36 is 44.44%.

78% vs 44.4% really has little meaning to most.
"So, a higher value. ok. so?"

Excel shows a 1 in 832,081,751(almost 1 billion) of 61 or more successes in 78 trials.
interesting

http://vassarstats.net/binomialX.html
shows(rounds)
1.202e-9 or about 1 in 831,946,755

with n=78
k=61
p=16/36

also:
Parameters of binomial sampling distribution:
mean = 34.6667
variance =19.2593
standard deviation =4.3885
binomial z-ratio =+5.89

+5.89 means WOW! yepper!

many think bubble craps is rigged and the dice can be controlled
just from the software too. I mean really...

I also witnessed one die not even rolling and the other rolling around just
to make all bets lose.
never seen that on a real craps table! (hehe)

super!
Sally

Quote: odiousgambit

I take it this means this whole thread is total BS?

yes, sorry