Best Reason To Play The Don't
January 7th, 2017 at 8:51:16 AM
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If you make the come out roll, the odds shift dramatically in your favor. A don't come bet with lay odds on every roll gets you up across the board as long as your numbers don't hit in succession.
I put up at least double lay odds on every number as they come, and sometimes I'll "Lay Buy" the 10 and 4 if I'm feeling lucky.
As long as you have two or three numbers up running you should come out ahead. The magic is in the come out roll.
When a table is "Cold" this is an advantage for the wrong way player, but when that 7 comes you scrape the board and it's
"Baby's Got A New Pair Of Shoes!"
It takes a fair amount of Stones to play the don't. You'll have more money out there riding.
If your numbers start to hit one after the other you watch your bank-roll go away.
But with risk comes reward.
Manage your money and have some fun!
Good Luck!
I put up at least double lay odds on every number as they come, and sometimes I'll "Lay Buy" the 10 and 4 if I'm feeling lucky.
As long as you have two or three numbers up running you should come out ahead. The magic is in the come out roll.
When a table is "Cold" this is an advantage for the wrong way player, but when that 7 comes you scrape the board and it's
"Baby's Got A New Pair Of Shoes!"
It takes a fair amount of Stones to play the don't. You'll have more money out there riding.
If your numbers start to hit one after the other you watch your bank-roll go away.
But with risk comes reward.
Manage your money and have some fun!
Good Luck!
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January 7th, 2017 at 11:28:32 AM
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Pretty awful post IMHO.
January 7th, 2017 at 6:16:21 PM
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What's the reason again?
January 9th, 2017 at 8:22:03 AM
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Why is it awful?
Didn't anyone ever tell you if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say anything?
Maybe you might try to add something to the post. Or just move on.
I've been a member here for 8 years. Never heard a negative comment until now.
P.S.
The only part I left out was that when you have all the numbers covered on the don't, and that 7 comes, then you scrape all your winnings off in one fell swoop.
Now that's a great feeling.
On the pass line if you're hitting numbers then your winning one bet at a time, But on the Don't side you win them all at once.
I've won big time playing this way. Lost some too, But always had a good time.
Positive Actions Produce Positive Results.
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Sounds pretty awful huh?
Didn't anyone ever tell you if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say anything?
Maybe you might try to add something to the post. Or just move on.
I've been a member here for 8 years. Never heard a negative comment until now.
P.S.
The only part I left out was that when you have all the numbers covered on the don't, and that 7 comes, then you scrape all your winnings off in one fell swoop.
Now that's a great feeling.
On the pass line if you're hitting numbers then your winning one bet at a time, But on the Don't side you win them all at once.
I've won big time playing this way. Lost some too, But always had a good time.
Positive Actions Produce Positive Results.
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Sounds pretty awful huh?
Member In Good Standing!
January 9th, 2017 at 9:13:04 AM
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Quote: BenJamminWhy is it awful?
Didn't anyone ever tell you if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say anything?
Maybe you might try to add something to the post. Or just move on.
I've been a member here for 8 years. Never heard a negative comment until now.
If you are really looking for feedback, your postings are a bit strange for this site - some kind of cheer-leading. You might be happier at other sites? Perhaps you post all over. Like you say, we can just ignore.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
January 10th, 2017 at 12:50:01 AM
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Quote: BenJamminPositive Actions Produce Positive Results.
Remember, it is important to stay hydrated and have positive vibes while playing the casino gambling game of craps no-pass and no-come strateegeries.
January 10th, 2017 at 1:15:07 AM
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Quote: RSRemember, it is important to stay hydrated and have positive vibes while playing the casino gambling game of craps no-pass and no-come strateegeries.
If you're hydrated it doesn't matter what kind of vibes you have. Remember to keep the drinks coming from the cocktail waitress. Carry a roll of quarters for tipping purposes, and always berate them on how long it takes for them to come back. They will hurry up next time to avoid being berated. Tell them they are fat, if you are getting resistance.
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
January 10th, 2017 at 5:29:36 PM
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Thanks. That's a great way to get some boogers in your drinks.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:05:47 PM
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Quote: alphastormThanks. That's a great way to get some boogers in your drinks.
but you will be hydrated. most important thing about systems is to be well quenched.
order 2 drinks at once, so the cocktail waitress knows you're serious about your game.
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
January 13th, 2017 at 12:28:46 PM
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At any point do you stop the Don't Come bets to avoid the hot shooter, hitting all the numbers and causing you to lose? I am been trying the system and seems I run into more streaks of shooters hitting numbers than I do 7 winners.
January 13th, 2017 at 12:33:54 PM
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Greed is getting to you. The most efficient system will only use one bet. Try the DC.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
January 13th, 2017 at 1:55:49 PM
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You're at the wrong table(s).Quote: PlayinnowI run into more streaks of shooters hitting numbers than I do 7 winners.
January 14th, 2017 at 10:45:31 AM
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Getting through the first come out roll is the problem for the DC player. Otherwise, I would play it all day. Every now and then I will lay the 4 or 10 at any given moment of a roll. It wins quite often... seems like more that 2 to 1 . But if it is a 'hot' table and the dealer tells me there have been a lot of 4s or 10s rolled, I will stay away form laying.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
January 14th, 2017 at 10:57:23 AM
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Here is another way of playing for protection. If you don't mind playing the don't pass and getting past the first roll. I put 500 on the dont pass and 25 yo for protection. Just need to stay away from a 7 on come out. Once the point is made, I put 650 across the board, which is 100 a number. Say the point established is 5. Now if the 7 comes right away, I lose 150 (650 on numbers - 500 dont pass). If the 5 is made buck shot, I lose 360 (500 dont pass -140 payout on 5). But if there are some numbers thrown... after the first roll i take in the 140 or 200 payout. Second roll, I press the point number. So if it the number rolled is a 10, I will press the point (5) to 300. Now, I cant lose and I will just hope for a long roll of box numbers. But I am hedged with no risk. If the 7 comes next, I break even, If the 5 is made, I will win 420 on the payout, plus I made 200 previously, plus the first roll of 140.. but i lose the 500 dont. So I made about 250ish. But if the shooter rolls for a while, which is what everyone wants and hopes for, I can make a good amount of money at no risk. Getting passed the first few rolls is the only time at risk.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
January 14th, 2017 at 12:19:31 PM
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I should mention that I am relatively new to the game so some of my questions or comments may seem confusing.
So although you play the Don't Pass, after the point is established you play the numbers, I thought that would mean I was betting against myself?
I guess I see this as a way to be more involved in every throw and having a chance to win something while I wait on the 7 to hit?
Thanks for your help.
So although you play the Don't Pass, after the point is established you play the numbers, I thought that would mean I was betting against myself?
I guess I see this as a way to be more involved in every throw and having a chance to win something while I wait on the 7 to hit?
Thanks for your help.
January 14th, 2017 at 12:56:05 PM
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Quote: PlayinnowI should mention that I am relatively new to the game so some of my questions or comments may seem confusing.
So although you play the Don't Pass, after the point is established you play the numbers, I thought that would mean I was betting against myself?
I guess I see this as a way to be more involved in every throw and having a chance to win something while I wait on the 7 to hit?
Thanks for your help.
Stick to proper terminology it will help you learn.
PASS LINE BET made just before the dice 'come out', "puck" is OFF and dark.
COME BET made on subsequent rolls so the players do not have to stand there waiting for the next come out roll.
DONT PASS BET... made just before the come out roll, "puck" is OFF and dark.
DONT COME BET....made on subsequent rolls so the player does not have to wait around for an official come out roll.
Pass line bet and Come Bet are teh exact same bets but made at different times.
DontPass and Don'tCome are exact same bets but made at different times.
The Shooter's Point may be established and indicated by that puck, but that is the point for the shooter's come out roll.
If you or the shooter make a "come bet".... the point for THAT bet is about to become established (or the bet will be won or lost) Come bet won by a 7 or 11, lost by 2, 3, 12.
January 15th, 2017 at 1:34:06 PM
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Like I said, I am relatively new and working on being more proper with terminology as well.
So in a scenario where I am betting the don't pass, the shooters point is 8, I have my don't pass bet and I cover the 4,5,6,9 and 10(also not sure if I should lay odds for each?) and the shooter rolls a 6 do I then bet the 6 again or not? And does the strategy continue the same, shooter rolls 9, do I cover that again.....etc.
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks
So in a scenario where I am betting the don't pass, the shooters point is 8, I have my don't pass bet and I cover the 4,5,6,9 and 10(also not sure if I should lay odds for each?) and the shooter rolls a 6 do I then bet the 6 again or not? And does the strategy continue the same, shooter rolls 9, do I cover that again.....etc.
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks
January 15th, 2017 at 6:03:46 PM
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if you are new to craps please don't listen to any of the nonsense posted above......you have two choices pass, and come bets or don't pass then don't come bets.....play as many as your bankroll allows....IGNORE all other bets systems or schemes.
get second you pig
January 15th, 2017 at 7:39:28 PM
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Quote: ontariodealerif you are new to craps please don't listen to any of the nonsense posted above......you have two choices pass, and come bets or don't pass then don't come bets.....play as many as your bankroll allows....IGNORE all other bets systems or schemes.
Totally agree
I'm a dark sider (except when shooting)
That's the only bet I make. No odds, simply Don't Pass
What I actually like about it is that I only have to sweat the come out roll, after that way ahead odds wise :-)
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
January 16th, 2017 at 8:21:56 AM
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Quote: PlayinnowLike I said, I am relatively new and working on being more proper with terminology as well.
So in a scenario where I am betting the don't pass, the shooters point is 8, I have my don't pass bet and I cover the 4,5,6,9 and 10(also not sure if I should lay odds for each?) and the shooter rolls a 6 do I then bet the 6 again or not? And does the strategy continue the same, shooter rolls 9, do I cover that again.....etc.
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks
If you are a first time shooter, just play the pass line or the don't pass line to start. If you want to play with the table and have energy with the other players, then bet the pass. If you want to play the don't pass, it is up to you. The hedge I described is a way I play infrequently.. It is more advanced. Learn the game a bit first by observing while playing your pass or don't pass. You will learn a lot by watching. Experience is the best teacher!
If I were to limit my play to just playing either the pass or don't pass.... I would play the don't pass. Stay consistent and don't flip flop back and forth.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
January 16th, 2017 at 7:20:20 PM
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hedging is not more advanced ......its retarded
get second you pig
January 16th, 2017 at 8:05:07 PM
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Quote: ontariodealerhedging is not more advanced ......its retarded
You must be an expert!
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
January 16th, 2017 at 9:07:30 PM
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Quote: WatchMeWinYou must be an expert!
No, you don't get to talk like this. You've been close on a couple of previous posts this week. This crosses the personal insult line. 3 days.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
January 16th, 2017 at 10:44:59 PM
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Quote: WatchMeWinYou must be an expert!
Actually, he IS an expert.
He's been a craps dealer for *shudder* DECADES.
That ain't chopped liver, and explains the ease with which he dismisses "systems" as the mere ravings of loons.
"What, me worry?"
January 16th, 2017 at 10:51:12 PM
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there is nothing worse than when a newbie is trying to learn to play properly and is given such bad advice....I deal with it every day. And for the guys info I learned the game in my teens from sam grafstein, the dice doctor and have been dealing for 43 years. In the example given if the first two rolls are 7's, the player is down $1050 bucks..how do you recover from that.
NEVER HEDGE
NEVER HEDGE
get second you pig
January 17th, 2017 at 11:03:36 AM
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Quote: BenJamminIf you make the come out roll, the odds shift dramatically in your favor. A don't come bet with lay odds on every roll gets you up across the board as long as your numbers don't hit in succession.
I put up at least double lay odds on every number as they come, and sometimes I'll "Lay Buy" the 10 and 4 if I'm feeling lucky.
As long as you have two or three numbers up running you should come out ahead. The magic is in the come out roll.
When a table is "Cold" this is an advantage for the wrong way player, but when that 7 comes you scrape the board and it's
"Baby's Got A New Pair Of Shoes!"
It takes a fair amount of Stones to play the don't. You'll have more money out there riding.
If your numbers start to hit one after the other you watch your bank-roll go away.
But with risk comes reward.
Manage your money and have some fun!
Good Luck!
I hope you were not the guy that layed both the 4 and 10 for $2100 and i blew you away on my roll at the barona, but thanks anyway the pitboss took their time letting me set the dice
January 17th, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM
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Ain't much difference between the Right Way and the Dark Way but its one or the other, no hedging for me. I will however do one or two Right Side bets and then, figuring that seven is about "due" a Wrong Way bet or two.Quote: ontariodealerNEVER HEDGE
I don't consider that to be hedging, since I'm accepting the full impact of each bet.
