charlestfuller
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December 2nd, 2016 at 5:28:22 PM permalink
"Box Car" 12!
FleaStiff
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December 4th, 2016 at 1:50:51 AM permalink
86 was restaurant lingo for 'all out of it' long before Benny Binion even hit town.

The drives were more than eight miles and the graves had darn well better have been more than six feet deep to avoid discovery by scavengers.

One guy got driven to the airport in the trunk of a car while listening to conversation about whose fault it was they had forgotten a shovel.
AZDuffman
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December 4th, 2016 at 7:51:36 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

They might be saying "corner". There's an old bet called the big six-eight that was located on the two corners either side of the stick. I think it didn't pay as well as placing the 6-8, or it was a duplicate, so it gradually went away. I could be wrong.



Way back in class the instructor said Big 6/8 was an "extension of the Field Bet." At the time, PA rules were not yet set to if it would or would not be allowed so we had it on our lays. I seriously do not know if it is allowed in PA or not since I know not to play it and don't deal in a casino I really never notice or remember to look.

When I teach players I describe it as "the stupidest bet in the casino." I stress I did not say "worst" as "worst" can be debated. I then say "stupidest" because 20 inches away you get better odds for the same outcome. Then I explain 7:6 vs. 1:1. The number of people who still don't get it then is amazing, BTW. I then explain Big 6/8 is there to sucker the new player too intimidated to talk to dealers. My style of instruction is a bit more "street" than most, so some people get what I am saying and others keep playing it. Oh, well, I did my job.

How about some "After Midnight" calls?

"Four-Hard Four! She is going to show you the door"
"Twelve Boxcar Twelve. Swallow the come and spit in the Field!"
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wudged
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December 7th, 2016 at 6:37:10 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Disagree. The 6/8 "Corner Red" is mostly gone, and NJ outlawed it on crap tables as usurious.
Haven't seen it in ages.



I just saw it at Paris on Monday and several other places. I can't remember exactly which places but also played at Planet Hollywood, Flamingo, Cromwell, Caesar's Palace, Binion's, and The D,
FleaStiff
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December 7th, 2016 at 7:55:23 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I stress I did not say "worst" as "worst" can be debated. I then say "stupidest" because 20 inches away you get better odds for the same outcome.

What is that casino in town that has two roulette tables side by side, one American and one European. Everyone could get up and move a few feet for better odds, but . . .
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December 19th, 2016 at 12:21:10 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This is a little off topic, but speaking of the 8 and 6 bets, I heard recently a story of the original of the term 86, as in to kick somebody out of somewhere in an informal way and not told not to return.

As I was told, the term comes from when organized crime controlled Vegas. To "86" someone meant to take them 8 miles out of town and bury them 6 feet deep.

Can anyone confirm or deny? The source that it comes from strikes me as someone who would be quick to believe an urban legend, but some stories ARE true.



According to Wikipedia, this is also a claim made by Doyle Brunson. While organized criminals may have used the term, I highly doubt that they originated it. I'm no historian, but I believe the mob started in Vegas with the Flamingo in 1946 and there are references to the term "86" that predate that time, so ... they stole it!
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December 19th, 2016 at 12:45:12 PM permalink
At local stick man will make a moose sound really really loud on a 10
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FleaStiff
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December 19th, 2016 at 12:51:10 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

At local stick man will make a moose sound really really loud on a 10

How loud does the moose sound at other times?
Actually, I would find that annoying. I do like a serious craps game but that does not mean somber. The stick's calls are supposed to keep the base dealers on the right track and to let the players know what is happening in what order so the players don't all start with 'pay me, pay me' nonsense. A bit of humor goes a long way from time to time but its craps, not 'carnival craps'.
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December 19th, 2016 at 12:56:20 PM permalink
Quote: charlestfuller

"Box Car" 12!



or "all the spots we got"
ontariodealer
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December 19th, 2016 at 10:28:21 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This is a little off topic, but speaking of the 8 and 6 bets, I heard recently a story of the original of the term 86, as in to kick somebody out of somewhere in an informal way and not told not to return.

As I was told, the term comes from when organized crime controlled Vegas. To "86" someone meant to take them 8 miles out of town and bury them 6 feet deep.

Can anyone confirm or deny? The source that it comes from strikes me as someone who would be quick to believe an urban legend, but some stories ARE true.



years ago an old man told me during the depression 86 meant a store or restaurant was out of something....it probably derived from this 86....you're out.
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