TwoFeathersATL
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March 22nd, 2016 at 11:40:02 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

Axelwolf

Because of that comment you will get nothing.... period

dicesetter

Just share with the rest of us, we will not tell Axel, promise ;-) I might sell the info to him later, but I promise you a cut of the proceeds (after expenses of course ;-)
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MathExtremist
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March 22nd, 2016 at 12:53:53 PM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

Axelwolf

Because of that comment you will get nothing.... period

dicesetter

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DeMango
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March 22nd, 2016 at 1:45:24 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

I just dropped two casino dice onto my carpet six times. I got two sixes, two fives, a twelve, and a four. Look how skillful I am -- my SRR is zero. :)

Wanna try that math again oh extreme one? Six divided by zero is.....
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MathExtremist
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March 22nd, 2016 at 4:21:22 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Wanna try that math again oh extreme one? Six divided by zero is.....

...the ratio of rolls to sevens. The sevens-to-rolls ratio (SRR), on the other hand, is zero.
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MrV
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March 22nd, 2016 at 5:56:52 PM permalink
Funny, but I usually win at slots when I take the trouble to push the spin button exactly dead center, using 4 pounds of finger pressure, no more, no less.

I have practiced this for eight years at home, and am now finally in position to make the casinos my bitch.

Ah, secret skills!
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DeMango
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March 23rd, 2016 at 4:02:06 AM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

...the ratio of rolls to sevens. The sevens-to-rolls ratio (SRR), on the other hand, is zero.

No because you haven't rolled a seven, it is infinite.
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RS
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March 23rd, 2016 at 5:16:17 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

No because you haven't rolled a seven, it is infinite.

Sevens-to-rolls ratio

Sevens:rolls

0:6

0/6

0
DeMango
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March 23rd, 2016 at 8:27:55 AM permalink
not 0 divided by 6, it is 6 divided by 0. Amazing how dice math escapes the extreme ones. 1 is the lowest possible answer, if on 6 rolls, 6 sevens occurred.
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MathExtremist
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March 23rd, 2016 at 8:40:21 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

No because you haven't rolled a seven, it is infinite.

RS already showed the calculation, but there are two other points to make:
a) x/0 is not infinite, it is undefined for any real number x.

b) Your lack of precision in both language and mathematics is hindering your ability to think clearly about this topic. You seem hell-bent on trying to make me look bad, but your latest attempt involves wrongly inverting a fraction in a futile effort to argue against a point I didn't make. When I say the ratio of zero to six is zero, that really shouldn't be a point of contention.

Before this, you were trying to redefine the commonsense notion of "keeping the dice on axis throughout the roll" to include any scenario where the dice tumbled off-axis but showed a desired result anyway. That this redefinition is incorrect also shouldn't be a point of contention.

If this lack of precision is prevalent among your dice-influencing compatriots, it is no wonder you can't quantify your theoretical edge.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
DeMango
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March 23rd, 2016 at 9:21:56 AM permalink
Well you can call it what you will but the lowest possible SRR is 1. That is, every roll you make is a seven. It cannot be 0. Your example of six rolls without a seven may be undefined by your definition or infinity by mine. Your lack of understanding of dice math is improving but still not there.
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