$15 on 2/12 (buy; 74:15 odds) $15 on 3/11 (buy; 44:15 odds) $20 on 4/10 (buy; 39:20 odds) $5 on 5/9, $6 on 6/8, total of 122 across, only using 5/9 to press 6/8 upon hitting.

I'm not claiming this to be some betting system to beat the house edge, I'm just curious as to what my overall chances of picking up $123 or more before 7ing out on a given roll with these bets active each time.

Edit: $122 total not $126

a transition matrix in WA will time-out before an exact result is delivered.Quote:Zer0So to all my math people (or to anybody who can tell me how to punch this into Wolfram Alpha), say I'm playing crapless craps, and I bet across like this:

I tried that b4.

you could get the paid version and maybe b happy

no vig on the bet up-frontQuote:Zer0$15 on 2/12 (buy; 74:15 odds) $15 on 3/11 (buy; 44:15 odds) $20 on 4/10 (buy; 39:20 odds) $5 on 5/9, $6 on 6/8, total of 122 across, only using 5/9 to press 6/8 upon hitting.

what casino(s) is this at?

I know some have vig-on-win for the extreme-outside

but for all - horn4,10?

OH, is this online-crap-crapless?

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no one cares about beating the house edge, only how much can i win and what are my chances of winning, imoQuote:Zer0I'm not claiming this to be some betting system to beat the house edge,

easy guess,Quote:Zer0I'm just curious as to what my overall chances of picking up $123 or more before 7ing out on a given roll with these bets active each time.

less than 50%

could be closer to 45%

cuz each bet has a house edge

who would figure that out?

I think the standard $32 across and 6 #s has a higher chance to reach $64 or more B4 ruin

i do not bet those bets

the cost could be $6 to buy the Horn+4,10 #s with vig, $1, paid up-frontQuote:Zer0Edit: $122 total not $126

unless they only charge the vig on a win

still

you have 6 ways to lose 10 bets and 30 ways to only win 1 bet, at a time

yep

no calculations or simulations required

chance to due what you want is still less than 50%

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this is easily calculated, like in in Excel, using Matrix Algebra, btw

super-easy

I mean an 11 year old can and has done-due it.

But 11 year-olds gamble differently than adults, imo

Sally

Google spell-check is funny

After simulating 1 billion (with a B) runs:

With bet replacement, you reach 123 or higher before a seven 34.53% of the time, and your average loss between 7s is about $8.

Without bet replacement, you reach 123 or higher before a seven 27.09% of the time, and your average loss between 7s is about $40.

"only using 5/9 to press 6/8 upon hitting"Quote:ThatDonGuyI wasn't sure

how are you handling the win a 5/9 and press the 6/8

this seems to be open to interpretation

I still stick with less than 45% as when a 7 does hit, there is still money left, not $122 of course to continue that betting system, but not ruined either

that bet gets to the highest probability bet to up and try to get back to the orig-across-bet

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of course, just betting all $122 on the Field bet has a 44.44% chance to at least double B4 ruin

that looks to be more fun, in my book of opinions

not sure about the comps

care to compare

Sally

cuz Lay bets win more than 50% of the time, Lay4,10 can easily top 70% of-the-time (my win rate still over 74% - no-fear-the-small-vig)Quote:Zer0This is at River City in St. Louis, on buy bets vig is charged after the bet resolves,

now on LAY bets the vig is charged up front but not buy bets.

so the casino wants that cash now. I see that most often all-over-the-world-i-due-not-play-online-craps

thank you for sharing

Quote:mustangsally"only using 5/9 to press 6/8 upon hitting"

how are you handling the win a 5/9 and press the 6/8

this seems to be open to interpretation

I still stick with less than 45% as when a 7 does hit, there is still money left, not $122 of course to continue that betting system, but not ruined either

that bet gets to the highest probability bet to up and try to get back to the orig-across-bet

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of course, just betting all $122 on the Field bet has a 44.44% chance to at least double B4 ruin

that looks to be more fun, in my book of opinions

not sure about the comps

care to compare

Sally

I meant every time I get a 5 and 9 to either both hit, or have one of the two hit twice, I would use $12 of the $14 I get to press 6/8, this is just because 6/8 have a lower HE and from my understanding there isn't really a good buy bet for 5/9.

Quote:ThatDonGuyI wasn't sure if you replaced your winning bets immediately or waited until after the next 7 (or all 10 of your bets won, if that happened first).

After simulating 1 billion (with a B) runs:

With bet replacement, you reach 123 or higher before a seven 34.53% of the time, and your average loss between 7s is about $8.

Without bet replacement, you reach 123 or higher before a seven 27.09% of the time, and your average loss between 7s is about $40.

Thank you!

I thought some MissRiverCasinos had Buy5/9 with vig on win, maybe not (knots)Quote:Zer0I meant every time I get a 5 and 9 to either both hit, or have one of the two hit twice, I would use $12 of the $14 I get to press 6/8, this is just because 6/8 have a lower HE and from my understanding there isn't really a good buy bet for 5/9.

then why not bet all on the 6 & 8.

ur chance to win at least 2

5/9 in any order

is less than 1 in 3

the Field bets wins way better than that, and can pay 2X or 3X on a win

the 5&9 look to be major sucker bets

i have seen kids pick up a sucker off the dirty ground and place it in their mouths.

some LOVE suckers!

Mully