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drjohnny
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June 3rd, 2015 at 5:03:38 AM permalink
A few nights ago my friend had a monster +50 roll, one of the longest I've witnessed at the tables since I started playing a few years ago.

I made a pretty decent profit since I bet across from the very beginning, but I now realize that I could've made so much more if I had pressed my bets on the box numbers that he was hitting the most.

For those who like to press, how aggressive are you? I'm thinking that going up a unit on a box number every 2-3 hits is reasonable.
Joeman
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June 3rd, 2015 at 5:19:25 AM permalink
I don't always play place bets, but when I do, I'll usually start by pressing about every other hit. If the roll gets going, presses will be more often and for larger amounts than just 1 unit.
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NokTang
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June 3rd, 2015 at 5:50:32 AM permalink
One, wins, go to two, wins, go to three units, wins, go to five units. Never exceed five units.
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June 3rd, 2015 at 5:58:05 AM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

A few nights ago my friend had a monster +50 roll, one of the longest I've witnessed at the tables since I started playing a few years ago.

I made a pretty decent profit since I bet across from the very beginning, but I now realize that I could've made so much more if I had pressed my bets on the box numbers that he was hitting the most.

For those who like to press, how aggressive are you? I'm thinking that going up a unit on a box number every 2-3 hits is reasonable.



AFTER you made your $ back, press 50% EVERY time the # hits.

ie:
you place $12 each on the 6 + 8.
so you have $24 on the table.

after you win back $24, press to $18, then 24 (because they wont let you press to 27) then 36, etc
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RS
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June 3rd, 2015 at 6:14:16 AM permalink
This is how a real man plays craps (change unit sizes accordingly).

Bet $54 or $52 across ($10 each number, $12 on 6/8). Press accordingly:

6 or 8 press:

1) Drop $4 and power press to $30 ($12 + $14 + $4 = $30).
2) Drop $1 and power press to $66.
3) Drop $7 and power press to $150.
4) Collect
5) Drop $5 and power press to $330.
6) Press to $600 ($330 + $385 = $715...so you collect $115)
7) Collect $700
8) Press to $900 or $1050

5 or 9 press:

1) Drop $1 and power press to $25 ($10 + $14 + $1 = $25)
2) Full press to $60
3) Drop $6 and power press to $150.
4) Collect $210
5) Press to $350 [collect $10].
6) Press to $500 [collect $340].
7) Press to $750
8) Press to $1000 or $1250

---OR----

1) Power press to $25
2) Press to $50 (collect $10)
3) Drop $5 power press to $125
4) Full press to $300
5) Collect $420
6) Press to $700
7) Press to $1000 (collect $680 [ i think?]).
8) Press to $1250 or $1500.


4 or 10 pressing individually:

1) Buy for $25 [collect $3 or $4]
2) Press to $50
3) Press to $150
4) Press to $200 or $250
5) Press to $500
6) Press to $1,000

----- OR -----

Pressing each (ie: have $25 on both, when it hits, press both to $50..then $100) -

1) Buy for $25 each
2) $50 each
3) $100 each
4) collect
5) $200 each
6) $300 each [or $400 each]
7) $500 each
8) collect




If you got some REAL BALLS, you do the same thing as above, except you also play come bets. Instead of doing "down with odds" (taking place bet down and using place bet + winnings for odds).....do the normal press on your place bets, and drop however much you want (3-4-5x) for odds on your come bet. In other words, your bets will be "double parked" [come bet with odds + place bet on same number].



Of course, you don't need to go all the way to #8 with so few collections. Perhaps stop at #4 or so. But really, IMO, you should press/power press at least 2 times (preferably 3 times) before you do a "full collect / same bet".



In the end, it really doesn't matter. Craps is -EV. Play however you like. But I sure as hell am not going to be playing craps for any longer than an hour (unless the roll exceeds an hour).
RaleighCraps
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June 3rd, 2015 at 6:20:22 AM permalink
If I was playing on a $10 table, I would press my place bets like this:
Buy 4/10 --- $25 , $50 , $100 , $200 , $400 or if in the mood - $25 , $75 , $150 , $300
5/9 - $10 , $25 , $50 , $75 , $100 , $150 , $200
6/8 - $12 , $18 , $30 , $60 , $90 , $120 , $180 , $240

Basically, I would press almost the full amount the first time or 2, then start pressing back about 1/2 of the winnings. This still grows your rail, but gives you the potential for a HUGE payday on a monster roll like your friend had. This pretty much guarantees that when the 7 out comes, you are going to have a large amount of money on the felt. BUT, you will also have a huge amount in your rail. I always looked at it this way; If the shooter rolls 3 more box numbers, they have covered all of the bets that were on the table (had I chosen to take them down). Therefore, by leaving the bets up I have continued to make money that I would not have made had I taken it down.

I've had a couple of long rolls, one 45 min and the other 70 min, and both rolls were nice paydays. One got me around $6,500 and the other was about $4,500. The downside is on shorter rolls, you end up breaking about even, when you could have booked a $100 profit. It all depends on whether you want to grind for more small wins, or swing for a home run.

Being aggressive worked well for me for a few years, but I have only had a couple of decent wins in the past couple of years, and the rest of the sessions have been bust outs.
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wilbsmitt
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June 3rd, 2015 at 7:40:37 AM permalink
Pass line, 2 come bets, start odds at $30, after hit go to $50, $75/80, $100, $125/130, $150, $200, $250, $300, $400, $500, $600, $750, $1000, $1,200, $1500. Minimum flat to achieve above odds. Fill in 6&8 if uncovered at approximate odds level I'm at. Biggest hit I had, my passline was at $15/$1,200 odds(at a 100x odds table).
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June 3rd, 2015 at 10:43:50 AM permalink
powerpressing vs 50% press:

it also depends on your mindset.
do you get more enjoyment from constant profit or a once in a while big payday?

and bankroll:
you need a much bigger bankroll to survive till the 6 or 8 to hits 4 times in a roll.
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djatc
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June 3rd, 2015 at 1:48:59 PM permalink
I usually table max whatever mustangsally says to do in her posts. Or the opposite.
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Ayecarumba
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June 3rd, 2015 at 1:59:33 PM permalink
The hardest thing is that you don't know the roll is a monster until it is over. More often than not, the shooter craps out after I press... hehe (at least that's how I always remember it.)
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