I Am A Dice Controller by Frank Scoblete *****
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This book is an instructional manuel, An inside look at the AP Dice seetting community, a commentary on human nature, a love letter to The Captain and his colorful crew, a fun look at some craps victories and the story of the end of a great friendship.
As usual Mr. Scoblete's writing style pulls the reader in. He is a teacher, a comic and historian.
His poignant imagining of a reunion with great friends that have passed on will bring a tear to your eye.
The advice and wisdom of The Captain translates to much more than just craps.
I know that that the usual blovinators on this site are going to trash the very successful author of this tome from the safety of their computer screen, but they are just being who they are.
I highly recommend this book to anyone interested in craps and the last couple of decades in dice control.
Mr. Scoblete indicated he is now semi-retired and traveling the world, I certainly hope this is not his last work.
Quote: AtGame7Do people honestly believe in dice controlling? I guess I always though that was some kind of running joke.
Casinos seem too?
Quote: petroglyphCasinos seem too?
Casinos hate "dice controllers" because they slow down the game and the table earns less per hour. That is the only reason any casino would have any restriction on setting the dice.
Quote: sodawaterScoblete is surely one of gambling's finest fiction writers.
lol.. I wouldn't go so far as Patrick.
but if this book is an instructional manual, then I would like to see what people say a year from now with their results.
I can suggest some good keno books with Great writing as well. Then I'll suggest some good Bigfoot books.
Quote: petroglyphCasinos seem too?
I can't imagine they do or they could easily fix the issue. Here is the test I would ask anyone to do if they believe in the ability to control the dice. I'd say the dice have to travel at least four feet even if you are shooting from next to the stickman so I'll give you one foot of leeway. Drop the dice straight down from three feet in the air using whatever method you think will provide consistent results (drop with your fingers, a pair of pliers, whatever gives you a consistent release) and set the dice how ever you want each time and let me know how many times they land on 7.
My guess is in the long run it will be 6/36.
I'm not even asking you to land them against an uneven surface like the back wall of a craps table, I'm allowing you to provide yourself the most perfect conditions you can and you will still get a random result.
I can't have my phone out at a table game because the casino fears I may be using it to find an edge, do you really think they would let you set the dice if it changed the possibility of a random outcome?
I'm honestly amazed anyone believes in this stuff.
Quote: AtGame7I can't have my phone out at a table game because the casino fears I may be using it to find an edge, do you really think they would let you set the dice if it changed the possibility of a random outcome?
Some won't let you set the dice; they believe something that hasn't been proven. Kind of funny!
Quote: RonCSome won't let you set the dice; they believe something that hasn't been proven. Kind of funny!
They believe it wastes time.
Quote: Dalex64They believe it wastes time.
I get that idea but they are inconsistent in applying it to everyone equally--they don't care about the yahtzee players, test rollers (roll the dice 4-5 times in front of them before tossing them), dice blowers, etc.--many times they only pressure folks who take the same or less time that look like they are setting instead of hurrying everyone along.
They can help things, if they don't belief the dice can be influenced/controlled by observing the preferred set and moving the dice out that way. Easy to do...good sticks do it all the time...
Quote: RonCI get that idea but they are inconsistent in applying it to everyone equally--they don't care about the yahtzee players, test rollers (roll the dice 4-5 times in front of them before tossing them), dice blowers, etc.--many times they only pressure folks who take the same or less time that look like they are setting instead of hurrying everyone along.
They can help things, if they don't belief the dice can be influenced/controlled by observing the preferred set and moving the dice out that way. Easy to do...good sticks do it all the time...
If they believed it they would:
A: Enforce the "must hit back wall" rule with more consistency as the pyramids would nullify even those with surgical precision.
B: Not let people shoot the dice. You don't get to deal the cards in Blackjack, why on Earth would they let you throw the dice if you could control the outcome in any way, shape or form?
That rationale falls apart when it comes from casinos that let tables and crews stand around empty for hours just because they conjecture that imposing $25 or $50 minimums is incomparably profitable to $5 and $10 tables.Quote: Dalex64They believe it wastes time.
When you are using "you" I hope you are using it categorically, I can't drop them from 6 inches and make any desired difference. I think it was "Wynn" that dropped them [10?] times and determined no influence was possible.Quote: AtGame7Drop the dice straight down from three feet in the air using whatever method you think will provide consistent results
Well, maybe under these conditions we might be able to work something out? If this is a proposal for a wager, are you saying you will fade my action? Is that Vegas odds and how high are you willing to go?Quote:I'm not even asking you to land them against an uneven surface like the back wall of a craps table, I'm allowing you to provide yourself the most perfect conditions you can and you will still get a random result.
I am glad I don't have to listen to people having inane conversations at the table, the din of the casino is distasteful enough already. I wish they would let me play with earphones and listen to my own music so I am not captured by whatever theme they play that they think will increase their hold.Quote:I can't have my phone out at a table game because the casino fears I may be using it to find an edge, do you really think they would let you set the dice if it changed the possibility of a random outcome?
Believe. That is why I said "casinos seem to". They are the most superstitious lot of folks on the casino floor. I like to "set" the dice and throw with pinache, but I am under no illusion about control. There is nothing wrong with style and according to some floor personal, shooters are allowed a certain # of seconds to launch. People that "set" well, take a lot less time than the drunks, and the losers, dice kissers and smoozers, but it is the "setters" who get the heat.Quote:I'm honestly amazed anyone believes in this stuff.
IMHO, that is stoopid.
Quote: SanchoPanzaThat rationale falls apart when it comes from casinos that let tables and crews stand around empty for hours just because they conjecture that imposing $25 or $50 minimums is incomparably profitable to $5 and $10 tables.
I have also seen them object when a shooter obviously threw short by accident and was the only player at the table?
I firmly believe some of those crews standing around having idle chatter do not want to be disturbed by players. As a player I have had to wait for the dice while they are talking to one another.
Just more of the same old burnishing, polishing, and creative expansion of his fractured memories.
There was no Captain of Craps, certainly not as he has described him in other stories: Frank employs a literary device: a cliched "hero of mythic proportions."
There are no dice setters winning millions from casinos, as he claims.
No, it's just a bunch of fairly well written B.S. designed to sell books by instilling false hope in the losers wandering dazed and confused in the casinos.
Sorry, but you really can't polish a turd.
You can try, and you can pretty it up with lipstick and mascara, but at the end of the day the aroma exposes the truth.
Quote: Scan
This book is an instructional manuel, .
It's well known Frank made a fortune at DC.
Teaching it, not playing it. He made nothing
playing it, not that he can prove anyway.
What should that tell you?
Quote: MrV
Sorry, but you really can't polish a turd.
.
The Mythbusters proved you can. But you
end up with a polished turd, not much of
an accomplishment.
Quote: MrVI've read enough of Scoblete's books to know this one will contain nothing really new. Just more of the same old burnishing, polishing, and creative expansion of his fractured memories. There was no Captain of Craps, certainly not as he has described him in other stories: Frank employs a literary device: a cliched "hero of mythic proportions." There are no dice setters winning millions from casinos, as he claims. No, it's just a bunch of fairly well written B.S. designed to sell books by instilling false hope in the losers wandering dazed and confused in the casinos.
Sorry, but you really can't polish a turd. You can try, and you can pretty it up with lipstick and mascara, but at the end of the day the aroma exposes the truth.
An established practice of authors and the publishing industry: make money, depending on reputation of the author, and Mr. Scoblete has succeeded in establishing himself as the supreme author on gambling. These kinds of books are called "pot boilers." They keep the kitchen pot boiling with food in it for the writer. Anyone buying this book probably is addicted to his writing style, more than to the factual information he provides. He's a novelist of craps and gambling, but since I don't believe in dice influencing, upon which his fame is based, I have not, and never will, buy one book by Mr. Scoblete. The only accolade I can give to Mr. Scoblete is that he is a good writer, and if you enjoy his style, buy his books.
Quote: petroglyphWhen you are using "you" I hope you are using it categorically,
Yes
Quote: petroglyphI can't drop them from 6 inches and make any desired difference. I think it was "Wynn" that dropped them [10?] times and determined no influence was possible.
Well, maybe under these conditions we might be able to work something out? If this is a proposal for a wager, are you saying you will fade my action? Is that Vegas odds and how high are you willing to go?
No, while I certainly believe no influence is possible I am also smart enough to not let anyone decide what the "perfect" parameters are and wager against them. A wise man once told me if you walk into a bar and a man wants to bet you $100 he can make the Jack of Diamonds jump out of a deck of cards, run up your arm and piss in your ear that you shouldn't do it as you will certainly have an ear full of piss and pay $100 for the privilege. I would, under any setting allowable in the course of normal business in a casino allow you try and control the dice all you want and fade your action.
Exactly my point. I don't want the phone out so I can talk to anyone, I'd like to listen to my iTunes while playing, but it's not allowable because they fear you can gain an advantage using some technology they are not aware of. Dice influencing is a "technology" I am sure they are aware of and have no fear of it at all, for good reason.Quote: petroglypham glad I don't have to listen to people having inane conversations at the table, the din of the casino is distasteful enough already. I wish they would let me play with earphones and listen to my own music so I am not captured by whatever theme they play that they think will increase their hold.
Quote: petroglyphBelieve. That is why I said "casinos seem to". They are the most superstitious lot of folks on the casino floor. I like to "set" the dice and throw with pinache, but I am under no illusion about control. There is nothing wrong with style and according to some floor personal, shooters are allowed a certain # of seconds to launch. People that "set" well, take a lot less time than the drunks, and the losers, dice kissers and smoozers, but it is the "setters" who get the heat.
IMHO, that is stoopid.
I personally do not care if anyone sets the dice before they toss them as long as they do it in a timely manner and don't hold up the game. The "yahtzee" players, the people who "roll the 7's out of the dice" and the guys who endlessly throw the dice backwards I can do without.
Quote: MrVI've read enough of Scoblete's books to know this one will contain nothing really new.
Just more of the same old burnishing, polishing, and creative expansion of his fractured memories.
There was no Captain of Craps, certainly not as he has described him in other stories: Frank employs a literary device: a cliched "hero of mythic proportions."
There are no dice setters winning millions from casinos, as he claims.
No, it's just a bunch of fairly well written B.S. designed to sell books by instilling false hope in the losers wandering dazed and confused in the casinos.
Sorry, but you really can't polish a turd.
You can try, and you can pretty it up with lipstick and mascara, but at the end of the day the aroma exposes the truth.
Kinda reminds me of Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki. Some people were furious that this mythical "Rich Dad" wasn't real. The entire point of the book was to show how assets and liabilities work, but in a very simple way. I thought it was a well written book if you read it as "fiction" or "general investing advice" but not as nonfiction or a textbook on getting rich.
I read FS's "I am a Card Counter" and found it to be interesting, and probably factual since I know card counting can be proven mathematically. As far as his dice control/dice influencing literature I take them with a grain of salt, no disrespect to the man. I enjoy reading gambling stories and fiction based on gambling but they are for the purposes of entertainment, not knowledge.
Quote: AtGame7Quote: petroglyphWhen you are using "you" I hope you are using it categorically,
YesQuote: petroglyph
No, while I certainly believe no influence is possible I am also smart enough to not let anyone decide what the "perfect" parameters are and wager against them. A wise man once told me if you walk into a bar and a man wants to bet you $100 he can make the Jack of Diamonds jump out of a deck of cards, run up your arm and piss in your ear that you shouldn't do it as you will certainly have an ear full of piss and pay $100 for the privilege.
That's an old line used about Titanic Thompson. Just as true today.
