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March 1st, 2015 at 8:08:55 PM permalink
I'm almost afraid of what I'm going to hear in response to this, but do you guys worry about leaving sizable amounts of money on the rail in fear that the dealers will be focused on the game and wouldn't notice if a thief pocketed some of your money? I have to be honest, I don't exactly count how much money I have when I leave or come back. All I could say is I eyeball it but in all honestly, really wouldn't know if someone pocketed a black chip.
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March 1st, 2015 at 8:13:04 PM permalink
I allways leave my chips on the rail for a bathroom break. Must admit that I liked it better when they would cover them with a towel but the casinos I go to now don't usually do that.
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March 1st, 2015 at 8:15:35 PM permalink
The Wynn uses a glass case, but most casinos I've gone to cover with a towel. Have to admit I feel better with the case.
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March 1st, 2015 at 8:36:07 PM permalink
I never leave anything black or bigger in the rail.
If possible, I will take my greens too.
I usually chat up my neighbors, and ask them to keep an eye on my rack as well.
I have never had any chips pinched, and I have never seen it happen to anyone else.

I'm not sure how far the casino would go to help you if you did have some chips taken though. I'm guessing they 'might' roll tape to see what they see, but I bet they won't go to much trouble to try and get your chips back.
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March 1st, 2015 at 8:55:34 PM permalink
I personally don't like to be ask to watch somebody's chips or slot machine. Especially watching a slot machine is work and for 5-10 minutes I don't want to worry about somebody sitting down at the vacant machine.
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March 1st, 2015 at 9:10:07 PM permalink
I'll leave chips on a table game, but on a craps rail seems like a bad idea.
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March 1st, 2015 at 9:11:11 PM permalink
Personally, if I am at a slot machine, or video poker machine for that matter, and I need to use the bathroom, the only person I would ask to watch it would be someone I am with. At a table, i am more comfortable in leaving my chips at the table.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 1:32:30 AM permalink
Thinking about this thread -- I don't go to the bathroom all too often.

Anyway, I'd leave chips on a table or in the rail at a craps game. I wouldn't leave any large amount, though. At a craps table, I'd definitely let the dealer know I'm going away for a second and ask for a towel. I wouldn't just walk off mid-roll with my chips laying there. Also, count them, or at least only leave red + green (or whatever you feel comfortable with). In blackjack, I've left several thousand (maybe $4-6K?) at the table while I "go to the bathroom".


Slot machines or video poker -- no way Jose. If I could play on any (or a number of) machines, then I'd just cash out, go to bathroom, and come back. If that machine is the only machine I could play or there was some reason I was playing that specific machine, I'd likely ask a slot attendant to hold the game for me. If I'm not mistaken, I believe they can hit some buttons and block it out so no one can play it until I come back.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 2:54:39 AM permalink
for a buzzkill comment, I'd take it as a sign that I've been playing too long, to think I need to come back to that table instead of cashing out and taking a break for a while

sure, I have my superstitions, and I enjoy playing them out, so I can [and do allow myself to] believe a table is hot to intensify the experience, but with a full bladder my rationality kicks in - deep down I know there is no such thing as a hot table as far as what will happen next, indisputable as the past might be.

If I ever did leave chips, I'd try to do what I've seen done, leave white chips only
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March 2nd, 2015 at 4:29:01 AM permalink
Never had a problem, never once. All the places we play we will leave them, and they are sizable amounts including yellows and flags. I have to admit that, I never left anything larger than flags or chocolates though.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 5:26:25 AM permalink
flags? what denom are those?
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March 2nd, 2015 at 9:11:17 AM permalink
I always cap both ends of my rail with 2-3 whites, makes it harder to pinch chips.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 9:17:56 AM permalink
And I was referring to BJ and Baccarat tables, not craps with a rail, sorry.

Flags are $5k same as chocolates.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 10:15:48 AM permalink
Quote: MDH20SKI

I always cap both ends of my rail with 2-3 whites, makes it harder to pinch chips.



Likewise.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 11:41:04 AM permalink
Quote: Baccaratfrom79

Never had a problem, never once. All the places we play we will leave them, and they are sizable amounts including yellows and flags. I have to admit that, I never left anything larger than flags or chocolates though.



I was in a 10/20 game at the Horseshoe onetime. There was an older lady in the game playing every hand and was a calling station from hell. She played to the end every time. She was running through rack after rack of red. There were other guys in the game that knew what was going on so I couldn't isolate on her. But I was the one catching all the cards. I bought in for $200 and amassed three racks of red. I stepped outside the rail to talk to a friend. Along came Joe the Greek, a casino criminal from hell. He stopped at the rail and stared at my chips. I could see the wheels clicking in his eyes. He was actually thinking about grabbing a rack and hauling ass. I walked over.

"Hi, Joe. I'm doing pretty good, huh" I said as I pointed to the racks.
"Oh, those are yours?" he said. Then he walked away.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 7:55:30 PM permalink
Rule of thumb is to color up and leave or take your chips with you. However, I did have this one instance where I was dying to use the restroom. I was doing well enough at an empty table and had just the spot I wanted left of the stick. I had to go so bad that I asked the dealers to hold my spot and watch my chips. Dealers said no problem. When I came back, everything was in order, but no case on my rail. If the table were busier, I'd be concerned about pinching or someone jumping in and taking my rack.

Suffice it to say, I tipped the dealers when I finally left the table on my return.
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March 2nd, 2015 at 9:44:59 PM permalink
I figure the safest place to leave chips outside your person is in front of a casino worker, with cameras.
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March 3rd, 2015 at 12:00:35 AM permalink
I've left chips at a blackjack table before. Even then I'll probably take any higher denom. Then I'll cap what's left with a couple whites. But I would never leave chips at a craps table.
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March 3rd, 2015 at 12:15:29 AM permalink
I have players leave cheques at the table all the time. It's no big deal for me to watch them, I don't mind. We don't put anything like a towel over them. They are just out in the open.
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March 3rd, 2015 at 5:47:01 AM permalink
I just get a glass and urinate in it. It's not like anyone cares. If they look so what? Difficult enough for me to see......In cases of real emergencies after a meal etc. I'm going back to my hotel room, not to some public restroom overrun with people who live on the street and use the facility as their home.

Which reminds me of another instance at a Hearns vs. Leonard fight at Caesars. Used a paper cup there but it spilled. Luckily the floor was carpeted.
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March 3rd, 2015 at 6:01:11 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I just get a glass and urinate in it.



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March 3rd, 2015 at 6:58:20 AM permalink
I have seen a lot of things in the high limit rooms over the years, believe me when I say that. But, we usually just stand up-slowly dance in place, squeeze our legs and hold it in, if we are on a heater and don't want to leave the table. Eventually when it is so bad, we just ask the dealer to hold the shoe and we will be right back. But the one thing I have never done or seen done, is a player doing it in a glass. Not yet anyways.
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March 4th, 2015 at 1:00:23 PM permalink
Peeing in a glass, while on the casino floor, should be sufficient cause for an immediate boot. Not that I can't say that the post was tremendously entertaining and totally appropriate for the thread.
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March 4th, 2015 at 1:16:50 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I just get a glass and urinate in it. It's not like anyone cares. If they look so what? Difficult enough for me to see......In cases of real emergencies after a meal etc. I'm going back to my hotel room, not to some public restroom overrun with people who live on the street and use the facility as their home.

Which reminds me of another instance at a Hearns vs. Leonard fight at Caesars. Used a paper cup there but it spilled. Luckily the floor was carpeted.



I don't believe you, but if this is true, what dump do you play in that tolerates this kind of crap?
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March 4th, 2015 at 1:40:54 PM permalink
Quote: sc15

what dump do you play in that tolerates this kind of crap?


I would be afraid of using the words "dump" & "crap"' with the casino they are visiting as who knows what else is tolerated there.
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March 4th, 2015 at 2:22:07 PM permalink
I also find this very difficult to believe. What do you do with the glass? Do you just leave it on the rail under the table? Hand it back to the waitress? Nobody smells it? Have you ever "overfilled" the glass? What the hell?
If government is the answer, it must have been a very stupid question.
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March 4th, 2015 at 8:18:03 PM permalink
Quote: Daddydoc

I also find this very difficult to believe. What do you do with the glass? Do you just leave it on the rail under the table? Hand it back to the waitress? Nobody smells it? Have you ever "overfilled" the glass? What the hell?



What are you guys and gals on about? Do you suggest simply "peeing" on the floor vs. using a glass discretely? Anyone with nothing better to do than watch a guy urinate in a cup certainly isn't "my kind of gal".

Let me explain it to you: You simply insert said glass or cup(preferably coffee type of cup) behind your belt line, down to said area, find a comfortable position which you know encompasses your unit, let it go/flow, cease, carefully remove the glass via the same route, and place it on the rail. At no time are you actually exposing anything to the camera or other players/guests. It's not rocket science. It's known as being discrete and comfortable with your body. We over here in Asia also do this on long bus rides using jars with tops as well as sporting events and movies. Whose going to leave a football game and head for the bathroom simply to take a quick piss?. I think many of you have been spoiled by your American "values" or whatever the word is. There is a world out there you must not have been exposed(no pun) to.
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March 4th, 2015 at 8:26:05 PM permalink
Quote: sc15

I don't believe you, but if this is true, what dump do you play in that tolerates this kind of crap?



We aren't talking about a long period of time. It's simply as explained, a case of the person not wanting to leave his spot at the table or seat in the stands and miss some important action. If they are giving away beer or selling it, things happen. You might be better off asking why they sell beverages at said events knowing full well it's going to drive people to need to urinate. It's not a matter of "tolerating" anything. It's part of the business the casino is in.
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March 4th, 2015 at 9:01:04 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

We aren't talking about a long period of time. It's simply as explained, a case of the person not wanting to leave his spot at the table or seat in the stands and miss some important action. If they are giving away beer or selling it, things happen. You might be better off asking why they sell beverages at said events knowing full well it's going to drive people to need to urinate. It's not a matter of "tolerating" anything. It's part of the business the casino is in.



wtf?

The casino provides bathrooms for you to piss out the beverages they're serving.
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March 4th, 2015 at 9:10:22 PM permalink
Quote: sc15

wtf?

The casino provides bathrooms for you to piss out the beverages they're serving.



The point remains, many don't want to leave their spot/seat due to for instance, a long roll or crucial point in the game. Likewise, don't want to wait for halftime when the bathrooms are overcrowded and/or use a "toilet" on a bus which may be unsanitary not to mention, the risk of walking down the aisle of a bus on less than smooth highways. Ah to be young again when I could just "hold it" for an hour or two....
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March 4th, 2015 at 9:49:47 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

The point remains, many don't want to leave their spot/seat due to for instance, a long roll or crucial point in the game. Likewise, don't want to wait for halftime when the bathrooms are overcrowded and/or use a "toilet" on a bus which may be unsanitary not to mention, the risk of walking down the aisle of a bus on less than smooth highways. Ah to be young again when I could just "hold it" for an hour or two....



I will never forget, walking down the AC boardwalk and it was right outside of Tropicana on the south side. Two guys pissing on the wall in full view of everyone. An AC cop rides up on a bicycle and waits there right behind them. As they both turn around and see the cop the give him that NYC, "WTF officer, sorry we couldn't hold it any longer" as they were sipping up their pants. The cop is just shaking his head from side to side and they both walk away.
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March 5th, 2015 at 3:55:24 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

We over here in Asia also do this



we need to find out if this is really an Asia thing or if Nok Tang is putting us on ...

Baccarat79, you have commented already, but how about asking around?

we have other Asian members but this is probably not necessarily a thread all have visited
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March 5th, 2015 at 4:05:11 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

we need to find out if this is really an Asia thing or if Nok Tang is putting us on ...

Baccarat79, you have commented already, but how about asking around?

we have other Asian members but this is probably not necessarily a thread all have visited



Never saw anyone do this, Asian or not.
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March 5th, 2015 at 5:22:58 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I just get a glass and urinate in it. It's not like anyone cares. If they look so what? Difficult enough for me to see......In cases of real emergencies after a meal etc. I'm going back to my hotel room, not to some public restroom overrun with people who live on the street and use the facility as their home.

Which reminds me of another instance at a Hearns vs. Leonard fight at Caesars. Used a paper cup there but it spilled. Luckily the floor was carpeted.



If you throw a little party at your house, I hope a guest or two pees in your wine glasses. Kind of pungent and nutty, a bit acidic and best served warm.
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March 5th, 2015 at 7:21:33 AM permalink
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in Cambodia, urinating in public is acceptable, as men and children relieve themselves on public walls and trees.



I am calming down

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/columns/more-toilets-needed
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March 5th, 2015 at 7:25:48 AM permalink
Can the golden shower article be far behind? :-)
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March 5th, 2015 at 11:08:07 AM permalink
With the way gold is dropping these days, the shower would be worth way less.
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March 5th, 2015 at 8:22:07 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

What are you guys and gals on about? Do you suggest simply "peeing" on the floor vs. using a glass discretely? Anyone with nothing better to do than watch a guy urinate in a cup certainly isn't "my kind of gal".

Let me explain it to you: You simply insert said glass or cup(preferably coffee type of cup) behind your belt line, down to said area, find a comfortable position which you know encompasses your unit, let it go/flow, cease, carefully remove the glass via the same route, and place it on the rail. At no time are you actually exposing anything to the camera or other players/guests. It's not rocket science. It's known as being discrete and comfortable with your body. We over here in Asia also do this on long bus rides using jars with tops as well as sporting events and movies. Whose going to leave a football game and head for the bathroom simply to take a quick piss?. I think many of you have been spoiled by your American "values" or whatever the word is. There is a world out there you must not have been exposed(no pun) to.

And what becomes of the glass of urine on the rail? Does the cocktail waitress now deal with it? I doubt such behavior is tolerated in places like Singapore or Macau. Speaking not as a westerner, but a member of civilization this behavior is appalling and it has nothing to do with the chance that someone might get a glimpse of your pecker. It is unsanitary, disrespectful and repugnant.
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March 5th, 2015 at 8:42:04 PM permalink
Quote: JimRockford

It is unsanitary, disrespectful and repugnant.



Welcome to the world outside your three, four, or five star hotels and gated communities. In a country like India, use of the street as a toilet is not only accepted, but the norm.

You have a valid point about Singapore and Macau being different, not that I wouldn't relieve myself there. We aren't in this discussion talking about our/my normal behavior. As I outlined to you, circumstances sometimes dictate you do something other than just let if flow down your leg.
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March 5th, 2015 at 8:52:07 PM permalink
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we need to find out if this is really an Asia thing or if Nok Tang is putting us on ...



As again, I attempted to explain in somewhat reasonable discourse, some people simply don't have time to wait. The need to "go" is quickly followed by "going" in certain age and health related circumstances. Winning another thousand dollars or seeing the game is more important than the attitude of those more fortunate health wise.
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March 5th, 2015 at 9:06:52 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Welcome to the world outside your three, four, or five star hotels and gated communities. In a country like India, use of the street as a toilet is not only accepted, but the norm.

You have a valid point about Singapore and Macau being different, not that I wouldn't relieve myself there. We aren't in this discussion talking about our/my normal behavior. As I outlined to you, circumstances sometimes dictate you do something other than just let if flow down your leg.



Yeah, well, the inside of most casinos isn't a 3rd world country and pissing in a glass for the cocktail waitress to pick up isn't an acceptable practice.

Please stay in your 3rd world country if you want to piss wherever you feel like.
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March 6th, 2015 at 12:06:21 AM permalink
Quote: Daddydoc

I also find this very difficult to believe. What do you do with the glass? Do you just leave it on the rail under the table? Hand it back to the waitress? Nobody smells it? Have you ever "overfilled" the glass? What the hell?

The guy next to you mistakes it for his beer.
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March 6th, 2015 at 3:12:00 AM permalink
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The guy next to you mistakes it for his beer.



Most people are light beer drinkers, so they'd never know.
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March 6th, 2015 at 3:13:39 AM permalink
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Most people are light beer drinkers, so they'd never know.



Best post of the thread award!!
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March 6th, 2015 at 6:43:13 AM permalink
I've heard several different stories from several dealers at different casinos of players peeing into cups, bottles, or simply peeing on the ground while at a game. I think one player was so pissed off (yes, pun intended), that he whipped it out under the table and started to pee on the dealer feet/legs. A dealer in the HL room at Barona told me a BIG player was so mad one night after losing hand after hand, he whipped it out and peed ONTO the blackjack table. Granted, all the stories I've heard could be made up, but I sort of doubt that.....unless it's some sort of wive's tale or myth of players peeing on tables or into cups/bottles/ground while playing blackjack....and people like to make up their own stories.

So, maybe I'm the contrarion here, but I don't doubt a all what NokTang has said.
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March 6th, 2015 at 8:56:11 AM permalink
I've heard all those stories and many more. I'm still waiting to witness one first hand.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
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March 6th, 2015 at 10:15:06 AM permalink
Former NBA star Allen Iverson was banned from multiple casinos in Atlantic City, and at least one of them was because he pissed in a potted plant in the casino rather than excusing himself to the restroom.
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