Casino Sweat Joints
I believe you came back after halftime but I dont believe your halftime adjustments led to the comeback.Quote: dicesitterAcesandeights
I try to see your point, but I cant. What in the world are you going to warm them about??????
The math of the game says you cant win... period, end of story.. so if you want to be a stand up
guy and warn people....tell them to stay home....you cant win.....now see if you did that I am
with you....
But warning them against what some other people do, and some do it very well.. makes no sense,
no sense at all.
Again I try to see your point but I cant....
Thursday and Friday nights were an example for me....Thursday was a tad tuff, i had a decent
roll, then 7 poor ones, then i made another adjustment... and had a 17 roll, 9 roll and a 33. This
set provides 6's & 5's often and it did then with 18 6's 13 5's over those rolls, since i understand that i bet
far more on the 6 & 5, i did well. Friday night i used a different type of throw since
i was on a different type of table, and that shot and set is a good repeater, you don't know which of
a couple of numbers it will be, but when you see it you center on it. It had a couple of short rolls,
then a 17, 9 24, and had 13 nines in those rolls, the math says about 5.5 nines.
the math of the game says Thursday i should have had 8 6's and about 6.5
5's.... did the math take a break????? and when the math does take a break are you supposed
to ignor it???
So now what are going to warn them about,,,, i am lying, this cant be done, or they cant
do it..... or in all cases the math over-rides all else and i should have just bet the 6 & 8 all
night because they have the lowest house advantage.
In the end over time, we all lose, the casino wins, the casino always wins,
none of us are ever a life time winner because we are in a
casino, it will get you some way or another. So to warn people about what others do is pure
goofy... the only option you have is to say Dicesetter lies.... 100% of things he says is
false, anything anyone says in the DI community is false... see that at least is a reflection
on you and your opinion, not n me because in the end i am the only that knows if i am being honest.
dicesetter
So there is no need for any heat at all, I know what I know and you know what you know.
dicesetter
I'm sure you keep detailed records. I'm interested -- of all your live-casino shots, what does the actual distribution look like?
Your right on, but that is another way of saying, when I play tonight, the actual math
of the game means nothing.
In truth the only thing that means anything in the game of craps is that your bet
is on the number you or some else throws.....
And I agree this goofy discussion means nothing to me tonight, just as the math.
dicesetter
Quote: dicesitterDalex64
Your right on, but that is another way of saying, when I play tonight, the actual math
of the game means nothing.
In truth the only thing that means anything in the game of craps is that your bet
is on the number you or some else throws.....
And I agree this goofy discussion means nothing to me tonight, just as the math.
dicesetter
You are delusional.
Quote: dicesitterDalex64
Your right on, but that is another way of saying, when I play tonight, the actual math
of the game means nothing.
In truth the only thing that means anything in the game of craps is that your bet
is on the number you or some else throws.....
And I agree this goofy discussion means nothing to me tonight, just as the math.
dicesetter
Nonsense wrapped up in ignorance of math, the Dunning-Krieger effect in full.
The 86ing is Meaningless... they have 86ed people for constantly winning at slots to. Sometimes the people making these decisions are crackpots themselves. Sometimes they have a better safe than sorry attitude.Quote: DeMangoI confirmed this with the boxman that there was a certain crapster 86'd at TB in Biloxi. Played the don'ts he won $80K in a year or two. Scoblete claims he and Dominatrix is excluded from all MS casinos. A famous don't player was 86'd from a Harrah's property in IL, never touched the dice, bet the DP. SuperRick here claims to have been harassed at many LV casinos. It does happen.
"Scoblete claims he and Dominatrix is excluded from all MS casinos"
Again meaningless, they may have thought he was cheating/short rolling/ comp hustling/ rat holeing or something.
is it possible he was holding unlicensed gambling classes with gambling equipment and that they thought it was a possibly a potential gaming violation?
Perhaps they didn't like the fact he may have been charging people money for a bunk system and didn't want that element in the casinos.
Personally I think it should be illegal to sell or profit from other people with any unproven gambling system, Including books, videos, seminars, classes etc.
I look at it like a pyramid scheme.
As for DI, take away all the money from the books, classes etc. Total profit of the top 20 DI's = less than ZERO (excluding comps and offers)
Quote: Zcore13HAHAHAHAHA that's funny. It would be a pretty good bet that I get paid more than you've ever been paid in your life... and this is the 3rd highest paying job I've had in my life.
You dice control people are hilarious. Always throwing up the smoke and mirrors when you can't prove anything you say.
ZCore13
right on, brother
Because innocent people get hurt.Quote: GWAEI don't understand why anyone argues with DI folks. Has any argument on here ever led to either side winning? The majority of those threads end up with suspensions and angry people.
I have a non AP friend who believes, all because a stupid class he paid for(I didn't know until it was to late), it he jumps in and out, he won't give up because of the initial investment. What an unfortunate situation. DI scammers should be ashamed. Hopefully interested people will read all the arguments and realize DI is a foolish endeavor.
Quote: ontariodealerin the previous posts where got I a little upset it wasn't about D.I. at all...I would never make that argument because you cannot win it with them and it goes on and on. It's the attitude of those guys, there attacking your character that gets to me. I was talking to one of my players last month and he was pretty pissed that he paid for a class in L.V. and one of the things that was taught was "see a horn, bet a horn"
Mustangsally believes the same thing about the horn. " the most likely time for a horn number to be rolled is the next roll"
Quote: AxelWolf
I have a non AP friend who believes, all because a stupid class he paid for(I didn't know until it was to late), it he jumps in and out, he won't give up because of the initial investment.
Are you talking about me? Every word is true except the word "stupid".Well, it was kinda stupid, but I think the class was really interesting and worth every dollar I paid for.
Quote: RSMustangsally believes the same thing about the horn. " the most likely time for a horn number to be rolled is the next roll"
The joke being it is equal to all time(rolls) in the future.......
Quote: RSMustangsally believes the same thing about the horn. " the most likely time for a horn number to be rolled is the next roll"
Just to remind everyone that a Horn Bet is a way to make four bad bets simultaneously, so I think all gamblers focus on that 'next roll' as being somehow special because of what just happened. If only the dice had a memory of what just happened and adjusted their decision making accordingly.... you know .. sort of even things out in our perfectly ordered universe of mathematically pure behavior in all things at all times.
A stupid question but ill ask anyway... Why is it called a horn bet?Quote: RSMustangsally believes the same thing about the horn. " the most likely time for a horn number to be rolled is the next roll"
Quote: AxelWolfA stupid question but ill ask anyway... Why is it called a horn bet?
In craps, you can make a one roll bet, where you pick how you think the dice are going to land and they must land how you say. For example, you can bet next roll will be 6-6, or bet the dice will land 6-3 or dice will land 5-4 or any other way. A horn is simply 1-1, 1-2, 5-6, and 6-6 all in one bet. If the dice land on 2,3,11,12 it wins. Anything else loses.
Sally's (misleading) point was that it is more likely a horn will land the very next roll than it is to land in a future roll with a horn number being rolled before that.
Ohhhh, AF said WHY not WHAT is it a horn.
I got no idea.
Quote: FleaStiffJust to remind everyone that a Horn Bet is a way to make four bad bets simultaneously, so I think all gamblers focus on that 'next roll' as being somehow special because of what just happened. If only the dice had a memory of what just happened and adjusted their decision making accordingly.... you know .. sort of even things out in our perfectly ordered universe of mathematically pure behavior in all things at all times.
Well, you know, many of us on this list could certainly design computerized systems that would behave the way you say. Pretty simple, actually. As an aside, I suppose we could consider things like single-deck blackjack and card-counting a variation of that (the system certainly has memory) -- and the casinos took countermeasures of course.
I must note, however, that we *do* live in "our perfectly ordered universe of mathematically pure behavior in all things at all times" (and really: you ought to copyright that phrase: you truly have a way with words, sir! I felt very very tempted to quote something from Blazing Saddles about a $20 hooker's tongue, but I have no idea if this forum has rules about family values or something).
Anyway, some of us just don't realize it, or worse, think that they can expect fairness from the universe. That always seemed childish to me. Mathematics makes for a pretty harsh mistress.
Truly, sir, you do have a way with words though.
