Casino Sweat Joints
Quote: superrickThe truth of the matter is very simple, tips buy you nothing. You can have the best crew you ever ran into and there could be one dealer that hates every player there is and will make the game as miserable as they can for every player on the table.
I know that dealers have a job I wouldn't want to do, and try to make their day as pleasant as I can. Unfortunately now days the casinos are hiring dealers that shouldn't even be in one. It comes as no shock to see one auditioning that can't do basic math and can't work with their hands, end up dealing the next time you stop in to play.
Well your statement works two ways, I live in the Las Vegas and play at most of the casino around Vegas. So where do you deal at, you do not have to tell everybody the casino, just the area?
Yes,..those same players that you are writing about can have most of the other players on the table hating to see them on the same table when they buy-in. Players want to have a good game that they can play, they also want professional dealers that will make the game as pleasant as it can be to play.
I know that I can lose money it doesn't bother me one bit. So if I'm losing I don't have a loser's attitude. We all have our bad days at the tables. I can't see anybody giving a dealer a hard time, but that works two ways. Dealers shouldn't give their players a hard time, I don't care if you are having a bad day don't take it out on me!
The players who are pleasant to deal to don't get bad attitude from 99% of dealers. Exchange dealer with any other profession and it's still true. Go to a restaurant and be rude to the host/waiter -- see how they treat you. Remember to sit at the table for 6 hours, sipping on your $0.79 refillable coffee, and keep asking them for water + coffee refills, more cream and sugar (but not all at the same time, of course). And don't leave a tip when you leave...or maybe leave the $0.01 change you got (keep the 2 dimes for yourself).
First you say "dealers love me because of the tips I give them" and now you're saying "tips don't buy you anything". Or are you generalizing them based on the few bad apples?
Not sure what you're referring to about under qualified dealers. Either that's the casino's fault because they should be hiring competent dealers (large off strip, all on strip casinos)...or else you're talking about break in house (small off strip casinos).
Sure did. Most such ads are really gimmicks because at 0.06 percent house edge ain't no casino going to pay its lighting bill. Many players flock to 1000x games to see others take advantage of them but not to go that high themselves.Quote: VenthusDidn't the Riviera used to advertise 1000x odds?
Quote: ontariodealerodds are neutral, long term.
Sorry, my sarcasm wasn't obvious in my post and it should have been.
Its amazing SR for all the long posts you make how totally clueless you are about craps, its a simple game. You decide to play do's or dont's then you play pass line and come bets or DP and DC'S with as many odds as your bankroll justifies. There are no strategies or prop bets that work. You can take your knowledge an skill when betting and deposit it there with the Patrick's scoblete's and all the other hucksters. Simple game , one way to play. And I was quoting another guy above, not you. I would rather eat a dogs barf than read one of your long, boring, useless posts.
dicesetter
Quote: FleaStiffSure did. Most such ads are really gimmicks because at 0.06 percent house edge ain't no casino going to pay its lighting bill. Many players flock to 1000x games to see others take advantage of them but not to go that high themselves.
The actual dollar edge for a five dollar bet with three times odds or one hundred times odds is the same. Obviously a casino would prefer you to put $100 on the line with $300 behind than $5 on the line and $400 behind...
My first question is how long have you been dealing? Is Canada the only place you have dealt? Here is one that has me thinking do you only get minimum wage like here in the states and rely on the players tips to make up the rest of what you make every week?
Quote: ontariodealerFor the people who questioned my dealing I have met a few guys from on here at the wov meet at Niagara and I think they will tell you I am real, a good guy and not a bitter old cretin like many here are speculating.
So did any of these guys have the pleasure of you dealing to them in a live craps game? Or did you just meet them at the event?
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Quote: FleaStiffMost bets in a casino are contract bets in the sense that once you make them, that's it.
I tried taking my bet down after hitting hard 18 but it didn't work.
Nomination for the most ignorant post of 2015! More than 90% of crap bets are NOT contract bets AND no such thing as Hard 18 on a craps table (this is the craps forum).
Quote: Bohemian
Nomination for the most ignorant post of 2015! More than 90% of crap bets are NOT contract bets AND no such thing as Hard 18 on a craps table (this is the craps forum).
It doesn't matter if it's a contract bet or not, it still has a house edge. If you take a place bet down after it hits, sure, you may save a bit more money in the short run than the majority of players who leave them up, but you're only fooling yourself if you think it gives you any sort of advantage. (Notwithstanding the scumbag shot-takers who try to call bets "not working" while the dice are in the air and such...)
Quote: superrickMr. Ontariodealer, you got me, but before I publicly apologize I need to know a few things about you so I know who I'm up against and don't make the same mistake of going against your superior knowledge of the game.
My first question is how long have you been dealing? Is Canada the only place you have dealt? Here is one that has me thinking do you only get minimum wage like here in the states and rely on the players tips to make up the rest of what you make every week?
So did any of these guys have the pleasure of you dealing to them in a live craps game? Or did you just meet them at the event?
I'll answer your questions after you answer mine....explain "winning comes from knowledge and skill when betting"
I thought it was the Humorless Bickering section.Quote: Bohemianthis is the craps forum.
Quote: ontariodealerI'll answer your questions after you answer mine....explain "winning comes from knowledge and skill when betting"
So what are you are little 6 year old, I'll show you mine if you show me yours. Your a joke, and you probably never even dealt a game of craps!
Quote: superrickSo what are you are little 6 year old, I'll show you mine if you show me yours. Your a joke, and you probably never even dealt a game of craps!
Quote: ontariodealeryou're a fucking retard
Ok then. *walks back out*
But should have stayed and said, you're both retarded.Quote: Deucekies*walks in* Hey guys! How's it going?
Ok then. *walks back out*
Congrats!!
Made me laugh after a long day.
But somebody must be having a low blood sugar problem 'cause it got ugly fast.
Quote: ontariodealeryou're a fucking retard
Isn't that an insult in Canada? It is here.
Quote: RonCThis thread will soon be recognized in the "Suspension" threads!!
Congrats!!
Indeed, I walk in and add two three more notches to my belt. Punishments are as follows:
| Member | Suspended On | Number Days | Reason | Suspension Ends |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| dicesitter | 1/19/15 | 3 | Personal insult | 1/22/15 |
| superrick | 1/19/15 | 14 | Personal insult -- third offense | 2/2/15 |
| ontariodealer | 1/19/15 | 7 | Personal insult/profanity | 1/26/15 |
dicesitter gets three days for the personal insult. It is noted it is his second offense but the first was almost two years ago, so I'll let that slide off the record.
superrick gets 14 as a third offense.
ontariodealer gets 7 for both PI and profanity.
Quote: WizardIndeed, I walk in and add two three more notches to my belt. Punishments are as follows:
Member Suspended On Number Days Reason Suspension Ends dicesitter 1/19/15 3 Personal insult 1/22/15 superrick 1/19/15 14 Personal insult -- third offense 2/2/15 ontariodealer 1/19/15 7 Personal insult/profanity 1/26/15
dicesitter gets three days for the personal insult. It is noted it is his second offense but the first was almost two years ago, so I'll let that slide off the record.
superrick gets 14 as a third offense.
ontariodealer gets 7 for both PI and profanity.
And somewhere Ahigh is smiling. What is it about Craps and DI/DC that gets them going??
Quote: BohemianOh the Irony of this thread. Isn't it amazing that you have 2 casino employees (ontariodealer and Zcore13) who are paid cheap wages by a casino defending a casino being cheap.
HAHAHAHAHA that's funny. It would be a pretty good bet that I get paid more than you've ever been paid in your life... and this is the 3rd highest paying job I've had in my life.
You dice control people are hilarious. Always throwing up the smoke and mirrors when you can't prove anything you say.
ZCore13
Quote: WizardIndeed, I walk in and add two three more notches to my belt. Punishments are as follows:
Member Suspended On Number Days Reason Suspension Ends dicesitter 1/19/15 3 Personal insult 1/22/15 superrick 1/19/15 14 Personal insult -- third offense 2/2/15 ontariodealer 1/19/15 7 Personal insult/profanity 1/26/15
dicesitter gets three days for the personal insult. It is noted it is his second offense but the first was almost two years ago, so I'll let that slide off the record.
superrick gets 14 as a third offense.
ontariodealer gets 7 for both PI and profanity.
I think dicesitters post he is getting suspended for is a quote from upthread coming originally from Ontariodealer, IIANM? It doesn't have the box around it however.
Quote: petroglyphQuote: WizardIndeed, I walk in and add two three more notches to my belt. Punishments are as follows:
Member Suspended On Number Days Reason Suspension Ends dicesitter 1/19/15 3 Personal insult 1/22/15 superrick 1/19/15 14 Personal insult -- third offense 2/2/15 ontariodealer 1/19/15 7 Personal insult/profanity 1/26/15
dicesitter gets three days for the personal insult. It is noted it is his second offense but the first was almost two years ago, so I'll let that slide off the record.
superrick gets 14 as a third offense.
ontariodealer gets 7 for both PI and profanity.
I think dicesitters post he is getting suspended for is a quote from upthread coming originally from Ontariodealer, IIANM? It doesn't have the box around it however.
Petro,
It appears you're correct about that. It may be the Wizard grabbed the wrong quote. However, this one's about as bad, and it is from dicesetter, so I don't think the suspension's misplaced.
Quote: beachbumbabsIt appears you're correct about that. It may be the Wizard grabbed the wrong quote. However, this one's about as bad, and it is from dicesetter, so I don't think the suspension's misplaced.
Thanks. I changed the offending post to the one you refer to.
Quote: Zcore13HAHAHAHAHA that's funny. It would be a pretty good bet that I get paid more than you've ever been paid in your life... and this is the 3rd highest paying job I've had in my life.
You dice control people are hilarious. Always throwing up the smoke and mirrors when you can't prove anything you say.
ZCore13
But, but, but...you're not puny? Well...ummm...I'm still right. Because...well...skill! (?) !!!
Quote: rdw4potusBut, but, but...you're not puny? Well...ummm...I'm still right. Because...well...skill! (?) !!!
Now that's comedy. And I can say with pretty good confidence (and some of those on here that have seen me can too) that I'm not puny. :)
ZCore13
I'm not making an accusation here, just noting my observations.
to be accused of an insult.
This forum has a lot of problems in terms of being a serious craps location, and I
are sorely disappointed in that. Again before I get accused of insulting the forum, let me
explain.
There is a lot more to the game of craps than just deciding to bet for or against the
dice. That was my point in my comments to that so called dealer in Canada, but as you say
I am not making any accusations here, just an observation.
Many craps players do much better than others because they are disciplined in their betting, they
don't over bet their bank roll. Some really pay attention to the trends on the table that night, some
have a good throw which at times gives them better results.....none...repeat none of these items
is an automatic win every time you play, but it helps.
We all understand you cant just bet your way to consistent wins, yet we explode immediately on any
discussion of other items to look at.
ON this forum you get this crap........''Its amazing SR for all the long posts you make how totally clueless you are about craps, its a simple game. You decide to play do's or dont's then you play pass line and come bets or DP and DC'S with as many odds as your bankroll justifies. There are no strategies or prop bets that work. You can take your knowledge an skill when betting and deposit it there with the Patrick's scoblete's and all the other hucksters. Simple game , one way to play. And I was quoting another guy above, not you. I would rather eat a dogs barf than read one of your long, boring, useless posts.''
The moderater agrees with this nonsense or he/she would have admitted they made a mistake
on banning me so they looked around and said well this one is good enough for that.
The first ban I got on here is because I posted what had actually happened and this guy calls me
a liar, so I said he was a jerk,,,, and he was.
Since we all know betting alone cant do it, and your afraid to talk about anything else.... why have
a forum???????
Supperick and I am not the same person, but we both believe there is more to craps than just
betting for or against the dice, and we are both against false claims of what can be done with
the dice.
dicesetter
Quote: dicesitterWell your observations appear to be a accusation.... but then again that is my opinion and I sure would not want
to be accused of an insult.
This forum has a lot of problems in terms of being a serious craps location, and I
are sorely disappointed in that. Again before I get accused of insulting the forum, let me
explain.
There is a lot more to the game of craps than just deciding to bet for or against the
dice. That was my point in my comments to that so called dealer in Canada, but as you say
I am not making any accusations here, just an observation.
Many craps players do much better than others because they are disciplined in their betting, they
don't over bet their bank roll. Some really pay attention to the trends on the table that night, some
have a good throw which at times gives them better results.....none...repeat none of these items
is an automatic win every time you play, but it helps.
We all understand you cant just bet your way to consistent wins, yet we explode immediately on any
discussion of other items to look at.
ON this forum you get this crap........''Its amazing SR for all the long posts you make how totally clueless you are about craps, its a simple game. You decide to play do's or dont's then you play pass line and come bets or DP and DC'S with as many odds as your bankroll justifies. There are no strategies or prop bets that work. You can take your knowledge an skill when betting and deposit it there with the Patrick's scoblete's and all the other hucksters. Simple game , one way to play. And I was quoting another guy above, not you. I would rather eat a dogs barf than read one of your long, boring, useless posts.''
The moderater agrees with this nonsense or he/she would have admitted they made a mistake
on banning me so they looked around and said well this one is good enough for that.
The first ban I got on here is because I posted what had actually happened and this guy calls me
a liar, so I said he was a jerk,,,, and he was.
Since we all know betting alone cant do it, and your afraid to talk about anything else.... why have
a forum???????
Supperick and I am not the same person, but we both believe there is more to craps than just
betting for or against the dice, and we are both against false claims of what can be done with
the dice.
dicesetter
Honestly, I don't think you should even try to post about craps here. This forum is all about math, and the strategies you advocate cannot be supported with math. The provenance of the Wizard websites is knowing the edge against you, and betting in such a way to minimize it. In that respect, there really is nothing more to craps than playing Don't Pass/Don't Come and maxing out your odds (and the Wizard gives his blessing to those who would prefer to play the "right" way, for social/enjoyment purposes despite the slightly higher edge).
No one's going to say you can't play however you want, and if one enjoys betting the hard ways and other props, that's great, just know you're giving up a lot more in expected loss.
The trending, reading the table, betting pattern voodoo is just that - voodoo. You can't prove it and it doesn't work. In the absence of changing the probabilities of the dice (which is, of course, an entirely separate topic), craps is an exceedingly simple game from a mathematical perspective, and no combination of betting strategy or bankroll management can overcome the house edge.
I politely suggest that if you want to discuss these methods, you would find more fertile ground at a different forum. Of course you are free to discuss them here, but it will be tiresome because you will have people like me constantly coming back to the math.
Wow A8 even I'm not a fan of the dice critters but they should be able to talk about craps. Unfortunately they never have anything legitimate that shows any real advantage.Quote: AcesAndEightsHonestly, I don't think you should even try to post about craps here. This forum is all about math, and the strategies you advocate cannot be supported with math. The provenance of the Wizard websites is knowing the edge against you, and betting in such a way to minimize it. In that respect, there really is nothing more to craps than playing Don't Pass/Don't Come and maxing out your odds (and the Wizard gives his blessing to those who would prefer to play the "right" way, for social/enjoyment purposes despite the slightly higher edge).
No one's going to say you can't play however you want, and if one enjoys betting the hard ways and other props, that's great, just know you're giving up a lot more in expected loss.
The trending, reading the table, betting pattern voodoo is just that - voodoo. You can't prove it and it doesn't work. In the absence of changing the probabilities of the dice (which is, of course, an entirely separate topic), craps is an exceedingly simple game from a mathematical perspective, and no combination of betting strategy or bankroll management can overcome the house edge.
I politely suggest that if you want to discuss these methods, you would find more fertile ground at a different forum. Of course you are free to discuss them here, but it will be tiresome because you will have people like me constantly coming back to the math.
The math of the game is on display were ever you play.... drive down Las Vegas Blvd...
it is the math of the game that built what you see, drive to any multi million dollar casino
in the middle of no where in indian areas, where the average home price is $65,000, it is the
math of the game that paid for those.
The math of the game tells you only what should happen and does happen over time, it says
nothing about what will happen tonight when I play, and the only way I can win, the only
way is that something happens on the table that should not happen, goes against the math of
the game, and if I am good enough tonight I can win, or if I am lucky enough tonight I can
win, but I sure as hell don't hope everything goes tonight as the math of the game would
dictate.
dicesetter
But I don't feel like I'm too far off base when I say that if you come in here talking about trends and bet selection as a way to WIN at craps, you're going to take a lot of heat. And rightfully so.
If I practice hundreds of hours and indicate I do ok, why in the hell should I take
any heat, you don't have to do it, and you sure as hell don't have to insult because
it is I that is doing the work
If some one else comes in here and says I chart every roll, and there nights where
it has paid off well.... good for him, he doe snot deserve to take any heat from you, it
does not affect you, it does not make you play that way and he is not asking you to
pay him anything , take a class or buy a book..
Please explain why anyone owes you anything... and they sure as hell don't need your insults.
If you don't believe in that, pass the post over, I know the math of the game means nothing
to me tonight, but if someone thinks that is the holy grail... more power to them.
There is simply no reason for your comment on taking heart, because it has nothing what so ever
to do with you.
DICESETTER
Quote: DeMangoHad a bad day at craps, all day. Woke up and read 4 pages of pure enjoyment here. It doesn't get any better. Thanks guys!
Well, I'd prefer this forum help you win at craps; but at least its nice to help you enjoy losing at craps.
Quote: dicesitterwhy should we take any heat.... explain that.
Because you can't beat craps with bet selection and bankroll management.
Quote:If I practice hundreds of hours and indicate I do ok, why in the hell should I take
any heat, you don't have to do it, and you sure as hell don't have to insult because
it is I that is doing the work
If some one else comes in here and says I chart every roll, and there nights where
it has paid off well.... good for him, he doe snot deserve to take any heat from you, it
does not affect you, it does not make you play that way and he is not asking you to
pay him anything , take a class or buy a book..
Please explain why anyone owes you anything... and they sure as hell don't need your insults.
If you don't believe in that, pass the post over, I know the math of the game means nothing
to me tonight, but if someone thinks that is the holy grail... more power to them.
There is simply no reason for your comment on taking heart, because it has nothing what so ever
to do with you.
DICESETTER
No one owes me anything; I never said or implied that. It's nothing personal, and I have strived in this thread to not level any insults. I am merely stating mathematical facts.
There is a reason for myself and others to debunk flawed gambling systems, and that reason is to warn others. When you or 98Steps or egalite or whoever comes here and talks about how you can win at gambling using bet selection, bankroll management, and other voodoo tactics, you give false hope to the mathematically weak. It's best for them to know the truth and approach negative expectation games as entertainment and a chance to win money one night, but with the expectation of losing money.
Again, I mean nothing personal and yes I probably should just ignore these threads. Every once in a while I can't stop myself from chiming in though.
Quote: FleaStiffWell, I'd prefer this forum help you win at craps; but at least its nice to help you enjoy losing at craps.
Well said.
Just reminds me to hold back on the BR; enjoy myself and forget the racks of Blacks and Orange beside me as i poke away...
Quote: dicesitterTHE MATH
...The math of the game tells you only what should happen and does happen over time, it says
nothing about what will happen tonight when I play, and the only way I can win, the only
way is that something happens on the table that should not happen, goes against the math of
the game...but I sure as hell don't hope everything goes tonight as the math of the game would
dictate.
dicesetter
Either you have inadvertantly misspoken here or your innumeracy is showing...(NOT intended as a personal insult, just an observation >/:^): in the relatively short/small session/sample that you are talking about ("tonight") the math (more precisely the probabilities branch of math) says PLENTY "about what will happen tonight when (you) play"...first off it says overwhelmingly that you will either lose more than expected or that you will win...both of these outcomes are different from the expected...this is akin to flipping a fair coin 200 times and having heads & tails appear exactly 100 times each...that is indeed what is expected but the chances of it happening just so are small...no, "the math of the game" doesn't "dictate" anything! Variance (aka luck) is part and parcel of probabilities math. Your results will vary --indeed it is the only way you CAN win...Were the math to "dictate" otherwise, you could never win...tom p
to beat craps. You would stand out like a sore
thumb. As soon as they catch on that you're
a consistent winner, you're 86'd. Soon you
have nowhere to play.
Quote: EvenBobI never understand why anybody would want
to beat craps. You would stand out like a sore
thumb. As soon as they catch on that you're
a consistent winner, you're 86'd. Soon you
have nowhere to play.
Have you ever really seen such a thing (a craps player being 86'd for being a consistent winner)? In 42 years at the banks crap rail in perhaps 6 dozen casinos all over the country (the majority in vegas, reno and Wisconsin) I have never seen either thing (a consistent winner nor any craps player being 86'd for winning too often)...just sayin'...tom p
Quote: BeardgoatI would hardly say this forum is all about math.
wait a minute, you arent the same person as goatcabin are you ? [j/k]
There was a short time when DI was trending, shortly befor and after Breaking Vegas came out about DI.Quote: betwthelinesHave you ever really seen such a thing (a craps player being 86'd for being a consistent winner)? In 42 years at the banks crap rail in perhaps 6 dozen casinos all over the country (the majority in vegas, reno and Wisconsin) I have never seen either thing (a consistent winner nor any craps player being 86'd for winning too often)...just sayin'...tom p
The casinos didn't know what to believe. At the time they were fairly liberal on comps and bounceback, AP's were taking advantage of large bets with a small disadvantage. It was +EV if you factored in the generous mail, bounce back offers and comps. Teams were betting both sides with very little risk. Everybody was freerolling the DI possibility. They casinos didn't want to change the mail BB and comp system offers and run off all the suckers betting 12% disadvantages. Guys who also might hit the slots afterwards.
Add all that to... not hitting the back wall, slowing down the game, DI rumors, No tipping, craps jerks, possible cheating situations. It was just easier to toss out a few players instead of changing everything. Casinos noticed for every one notable player attempting to DI that they tossed out, It encouraged 50 more wannabes.
Quote: betwthelinesHave you ever really seen such a thing (a craps player being 86'd for being a consistent winner)? In 42 years at the banks crap rail in perhaps 6 dozen casinos all over the country (the majority in vegas, reno and Wisconsin) I have never seen either thing (a consistent winner nor any craps player being 86'd for winning too often)...just sayin'...tom p
I confirmed this with the boxman that there was a certain crapster 86'd at TB in Biloxi. Played the don'ts he won $80K in a year or two. Scoblete claims he and Dominatrix is excluded from all MS casinos. A famous don't player was 86'd from a Harrah's property in IL, never touched the dice, bet the DP. SuperRick here claims to have been harassed at many LV casinos. It does happen.
Quote: dicesitterThis forum has a lot of problems in terms of being a serious craps location, and I
are sorely disappointed in that. Again before I get accused of insulting the forum
I know of three craps sites (edit: Forgot about Patrick's site!) that agree more with your point of view, why are you not posting there?
This forum is a serious location for all games, so yes you have insulted the forum's point of view.
You never ever change anyone's mind here without proof, this has been true for years, yet you still post and wonder why you get your keister handed to you?
Quote: betwthelinesI have never seen either thing (a consistent winner nor any craps player being 86'd for winning too often)...just sayin'...tom p
That's my point. If there ever was one he
would stand out and wouldn't last long.
Too much scrutiny.
Quote: dicesitterTHE MATH
The math of the game is on display were ever you play.... drive down Las Vegas Blvd...
it is the math of the game that built what you see, drive to any multi million dollar casino
in the middle of no where in indian areas, where the average home price is $65,000, it is the
math of the game that paid for those.
The math of the game tells you only what should happen and does happen over time, it says
nothing about what will happen tonight when I play, and the only way I can win, the only
way is that something happens on the table that should not happen, goes against the math of
the game, and if I am good enough tonight I can win, or if I am lucky enough tonight I can
win, but I sure as hell don't hope everything goes tonight as the math of the game would
dictate.
dicesetter
The math of the game does say what can happen tonight, it's quite good at modelling the short term too. You just want to pretend desperately that 'good play' will make a difference. It's an illusion. 'bank roll' management in craps means not spending all your money all over the place. Reading the roller is nonsense, with confirmation bias thrown on top.
It's a fun game, I enjoy playing it, the ability to go up quickly in the game makes it an interesting ride (of course the downs aren't as fun, but that's the game). But there's no magic to it, just options that people believe will make them win 'this time'. Sometimes it does... variance has all sorts of effects and the 'play in the short term' crowd just haven't got a grasp of what variance actually means. I see it time and again, and for all the bravado and 'I've studied this game' crap, they've never sat and studied what the short term really looks like.
I try to see your point, but I cant. What in the world are you going to warm them about??????
The math of the game says you cant win... period, end of story.. so if you want to be a stand up
guy and warn people....tell them to stay home....you cant win.....now see if you did that I am
with you....
But warning them against what some other people do, and some do it very well.. makes no sense,
no sense at all.
Again I try to see your point but I cant....
Thursday and Friday nights were an example for me....Thursday was a tad tuff, i had a decent
roll, then 7 poor ones, then i made another adjustment... and had a 17 roll, 9 roll and a 33. This
set provides 6's & 5's often and it did then with 18 6's 13 5's over those rolls, since i understand that i bet
far more on the 6 & 5, i did well. Friday night i used a different type of throw since
i was on a different type of table, and that shot and set is a good repeater, you don't know which of
a couple of numbers it will be, but when you see it you center on it. It had a couple of short rolls,
then a 17, 9 24, and had 13 nines in those rolls, the math says about 5.5 nines.
the math of the game says Thursday i should have had 8 6's and about 6.5
5's.... did the math take a break????? and when the math does take a break are you supposed
to ignor it???
So now what are going to warn them about,,,, i am lying, this cant be done, or they cant
do it..... or in all cases the math over-rides all else and i should have just bet the 6 & 8 all
night because they have the lowest house advantage.
In the end over time, we all lose, the casino wins, the casino always wins,
none of us are ever a life time winner because we are in a
casino, it will get you some way or another. So to warn people about what others do is pure
goofy... the only option you have is to say Dicesetter lies.... 100% of things he says is
false, anything anyone says in the DI community is false... see that at least is a reflection
on you and your opinion, not n me because in the end i am the only that knows if i am being honest.
dicesetter
