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SGIT
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January 10th, 2015 at 6:40:02 PM permalink
Had this happen this morning at GVR:

2 of us sharing a table and a young black kid walks up and buys in for $20 and joins us. Doesn't really make any bets until it's his turn to shoot. After going 7, 11 and 12 he rolls 9 to establish the point. I toss in $22 inside (including the point and I've got $1 on all the hard way numbers). Shooter rolls long enough for me to press up from $22 inside to $160 across along with hitting a couple of hard way parlays and horn bets but hasn't hit a point yet. A group of his friends walk up to the table and the only female in the group starts busting his balls about not answering his phone and them being late and that they are leaving without him blah... blah... blah. Wanna guess what the next roll was???
guitarmandp
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January 11th, 2015 at 4:31:36 AM permalink
Quote: wrongwayboston

I take my lumps along with everyone & sometimes win like everyone, but my personal worst case scenario is having a table full of hop-bettors & hardways & horn high & whirls. It takes forever to get all the bets placed (every roll) & forever to pay them if they happen to win. I want a straight-up table, Right Way or Wrong Way with no prop bets. Hey, why not, we have express lines at the grocery store!

Dan



I actually don't mind hop bets during a come out roll. A lot of people will hop the 7's to cover their hardway bets on a come out roll. That doesn't bother me. It's when somebody walks up to the table with a bunch of white chips and does stupid hop bets between every single roll of the dice.

Also I don't know why I find this annoying but I do find it very annoying. Shooter has the dice in their hand and some ameteur starts throwing in late bets while the shooter is about to shoot. I don't know why it bothers me but it does.
guitarmandp
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January 11th, 2015 at 4:54:24 AM permalink
I played do's and numbers tonight and here's a few things I'd like to add because tonight was very frustrating.

1. You bet two numbers and the shooter hits every single number that you don't have multiple times but never hits your number. This happened to me more than a few times today. The most frustrating thing is that I was shooting from the pass line. I had maybe a 15 or 20 minute roll and all I had was 6 and 8. I killed the outside numbers. I rolled the 4 and 10 at least 3 times each and I must have rolled 7 or 8 9's because the guy next to me got his 9 up to $600 and hit it from the $50 he started out (He made $3,000 off my roll). Anyways the point was 6 and I never hit it and I only hit my 8 once, which I pressed. Anyways I was rolling so many numbers that I thought I was definitely going to make the 6 so I went heavy on my odds. The 6 never came, I lost $100 and the guy next to me made 3 grand. He did put me on the hard 6 which I never made. He said to me "You should have bet all that across instead of on odds on one number". If I would have known I was going to roll all those outside numbers I would have put my entire bank account on the outside numbers!

It is extremely frustrating when all of the numbers except the ones you are betting on are hitting. There were a couple of times where at a $25 table I only put down a $30 8 and the 6 came like 5 times and the 8 never came! I'm afraid if I move the 8 to the 6 then they will start rolling the 8 and my 6 won't come (That seems to always happen when I move numbers).

Anyways the guy next to me that went across made $3,000 off my roll doing $260 across and I lost over $100 because I had the 6 and 8, pressed my 8 and never hit the 6. He had black chips on all the numbers but my two numbers (The point and the 8)

2. This also happened today. One of the few times I went across I was shooting. I had $81 across and I was rolling well. I always do full pressure the first time my number hits when I'm across. Anyways I hit every number and get everything pressed up. I roll the dice and this player goes and increase the odds that are on her passline bet and the dice hits her hand hard and it's a 7 out. I was furious. $81 + my $15 passline bet and my odds all gone because her hand hit the dice. To make matters worse this player started yelling at me for "throwing the dice too hard" , she said I hurt her hand. I said "That's not my problem lady, if I'm walking on a sidewalk and see a car driving past the speed limit, I try not to run in front of it"
odiousgambit
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January 11th, 2015 at 5:34:26 AM permalink
Quote: guitarmandp

You bet two numbers and the shooter hits every single number that you don't have multiple times but never hits your number



without question the most maddening part of rightside play

I don't try to 'spread across' to get all the numbers covered, but I see why players do. If I have a hunch the shooter will do well, I start making Come bets. I don't have to tell you what's the frustration that can happen then, should the dice gods not smile!

Quote: guitarmandp

my $15 passline bet and my odds all gone because her hand hit the dice



just for the record, she is just as likely to have caused what would have been a 7-out, to have hit the number you wanted instead. [OK, I admit it always seems to happen the other way! lol]
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
guitarmandp
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January 11th, 2015 at 12:37:54 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

without question the most maddening part of rightside play

I don't try to 'spread across' to get all the numbers covered, but I see why players do. If I have a hunch the shooter will do well, I start making Come bets. I don't have to tell you what's the frustration that can happen then, should the dice gods not smile!



just for the record, she is just as likely to have caused what would have been a 7-out, to have hit the number you wanted instead. [OK, I admit it always seems to happen the other way! lol]



It's extremely frustrating when you are having a good roll, have a lot of money on the table, and a 7 is caused by somebody's hands getting in the way.

Btw: a big fight occurred at the casino and somebody ended up getting beat up over this. This seven stars guy that bets big was playing. This lady walked up to the table and started making late field bets. Anyways the dice hit her hand while making a late field bet causing a 7. This guy started yelling at her calling her a bitch and a cunt. Her boyfriend punched him in the face knocked him down and then got on the ground and started ground pounding him until a floor manager pulled the guy off of him. Both parties are banned for 30 days.
odiousgambit
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January 11th, 2015 at 1:23:26 PM permalink
sounds like great ringside seats if you were there!
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
RS
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January 11th, 2015 at 1:38:51 PM permalink
Shooting from the DP, set up a point, lay my odds, I seven out (perfect!).

Count my chips, I got a small win so hand in all but 5 singles. I put 2 or 3 on the DP for a dealer bet.


Shooter on other side sets up a point, I lay the remaining 2 or 3 singles on the DP, walk away.

Few moments later, "7 out, line down" and a player "It hit the chips....WAIT WHAT THE F*** NO ONE'S EVEN OVER THERE'S WHO'S CHIPS ARE THOSE?"
TheWolf713
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January 11th, 2015 at 3:22:30 PM permalink
@guitarmandp

I know the feeling...

I've found that Working 2 come bets works a little better than just a placed 6 & 8.
"I'm a DO'er and you my friend, are a Don'ter" -Mark Walberg pain and Gain
PBguy
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January 19th, 2015 at 1:34:05 AM permalink
A couple of months ago I was playing conservative just $5 pass line bet and a $6 6 and 8 and losing consistently. About 5 or 6 shooters in a row without a point. I finally switch to the don't pass and the next kid (18+ here at Indian casinos and this kid was maybe 19) throws for 1 hour 10 minutes and has 11 points and 14 total front line winners. Fortunately after the 3rd point I placed $10 on the pass line and caught an 11 on the come out roll. My loss for his roll: $5. Everyone else at the table won several hundred each and a few won several thousand. One guy had a $20 hard 4 and when it hit he pressed up to $100 and it hit twice more. He also had at least $100 placed on each number and $100 odds each time. He raked in the money. One of the best rolls I've seen in a long, long time and I was on the sidelines watching it.

But at least I didn't keep chasing the DP!
DicemanCometh
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January 25th, 2015 at 7:09:43 AM permalink
My favorite is to load up 5X odds on the point. Shooter sevens out. Next shooter comes out with the previous point.

One number away from hitting a win on the Small/Tall/All. Shooter sevens out. Next shooter comes out with that number.

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