bodyforlife
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October 9th, 2014 at 9:26:47 PM permalink
1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)

2. Cocktail waitresses who ask if you want a drink while you're rolling and hover over you like a stalker if you don't reply to them

3. Shooters that take more than a minute to roll the dice while they go through some ridiculous ritual

4. People trying to teach others and pointing to things over the table at the time the shooter is about to roll (getting their hands in a position where the dice can hit them)
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October 9th, 2014 at 9:35:46 PM permalink
I definitely do not mind the Borgata waitresses hovering over me for however long they want.
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October 10th, 2014 at 4:21:35 AM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question



I've given this question some thought in the past. Has anyone ever been scared away by the truth? (Table sux) Let's tell them several players just left with 10K, in winnings. You just missed the Captain, him and Scobie had back to back 60 roll hands. I'm sure others could come up with taller tales!
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October 10th, 2014 at 4:30:02 AM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)



Who said this has anything to do with how the table will be. I ask all the time, but basically just curious how it has been going. Some of us like to be social instead of a hermit.

Quote: bodyforlife

2. Cocktail waitresses who ask if you want a drink while you're rolling and hover over you like a stalker if you don't reply to them


You are complaining about a hot woman hovering over you? To each their own.

Quote: bodyforlife

3. Shooters that take more than a minute to roll the dice while they go through some ridiculous ritual



I agree it is annoying but when they do it and shoot 30 times then it is worth the wait. If they do it and PSO then their turn is over quick enough. The way I look at it, the longer they take to shoot the less money I am losing.

Quote: bodyforlife

4. People trying to teach others and pointing to things over the table at the time the shooter is about to roll (getting their hands in a position where the dice can hit them)



Yeah it is annoying, but even if it hits them it doesn't change the randomness of the dice so it really doesn't matter.
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October 10th, 2014 at 4:31:24 AM permalink
The only pet peeve that I have is; when a person throws the dice hard about 3 feet from back wall and it bounces over the rail. They continue to throw them off the table over and over and over instead of changing their angle or distance.
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October 10th, 2014 at 6:04:33 AM permalink
A player who incessantly calls numbers out...so I can't even hear the stickman's call of the dice. Look Jack, you throw them, they landed... now shut up.
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October 10th, 2014 at 6:22:43 AM permalink
It would have never occurred to me that #1 would annoy anyone. I have asked that ? on occasion and been asked it hundreds of times - its basically just a way to say hello to some strangers.
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October 10th, 2014 at 6:31:11 AM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)


What others have said, this is just a way to be social, not a big deal in my book at all.
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2. Cocktail waitresses who ask if you want a drink while you're rolling and hover over you like a stalker if you don't reply to them


Yes, I too hate to have attentive service. Really? Why don't you reply to them? A simple 'no thanks' will send them on their way. Surely you don't think they are creating some sort of negative karma that will mess up your roll do you?


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3. Shooters that take more than a minute to roll the dice while they go through some ridiculous ritual


Doesn't bother me at all. Slowing down a negative EV game is never a bad thing especially when being rated.
Quote: bodyforlife

4. People trying to teach others and pointing to things over the table at the time the shooter is about to roll (getting their hands in a position where the dice can hit them)


I found this funny because someone who is teaching should know enough to keep their hands back. Not because it influences the dice to seven out, but so they teach good etiquette in addition to the bets, payoffs, etc.
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October 10th, 2014 at 6:34:00 AM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)



I don't ask the question myself, but I don't mind answering it.

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2. Cocktail waitresses who ask if you want a drink while you're rolling and hover over you like a stalker if you don't reply to them



So say "nothing right now, thanks," or "please hold on a second."

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3. Shooters that take more than a minute to roll the dice while they go through some ridiculous ritual



It depends. If someone's on a hot roll, I don't care what they do or how long they take.

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4. People trying to teach others and pointing to things over the table at the time the shooter is about to roll (getting their hands in a position where the dice can hit them)



That can be annoying. Although the result of a roll when it hits an obstacle is as random as one where it doesn't. A good idea is to suggest the class moves to a bubble craps table. The layout is more easily grasped, there are text aids if needed, and people can watch without getting in the way of anyone.
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October 10th, 2014 at 7:16:17 AM permalink
you need to stay focused at the table to win , but there are a number of items
that just fascinate me...

1.... people that have no respect for the game
2.... people that have no respect for others playing the game
3.....people that don't have any respect for themselves
4.....people that don't know what respect means


Guess I covered the respect thing, but it is stuff like throwing a bundle of money all over
the table in the middle of a good roll, it is stopping play to buy in for $300 and betting it all
on the first roll, losing and go away mumbling how made the table is, it is must certainly
the jerk off that stops the game in the middle of A good roll to buy in and then when they
ask him what bets he wants he says no I will wait, it is the guy that just has to smoke at
the table and wants to make sure everyone else enjoys it, it is the person that gives any one
setting the dice a hard time for not winning on each roll, even though they are to lazy to
try.

None of this is serious crap, but it shows a lack of respect, and I would imagine that anyone
that does this, also shows a lack of respect for others off the table.


dicesetter
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October 10th, 2014 at 7:40:19 AM permalink
Although none of those things bother me, I try to avoid them because they bother other players.

There is only one thing that bothers me and makes me leave the table:
Tip hustling dealers!
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October 10th, 2014 at 7:53:04 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

it is the person that gives any one setting the dice a hard time for not winning on each roll, even though they are to lazy to try.



What, you fault nonbelievers in DI for being "to (sic) lazy to try?"

Obviously he thinks (sagely, I might add) that DI is a bunch of hooey, a steaming pile of nonsense.

Would you also chastise an atheist for failing to worship / tithe at your church?

People can and do approach casino gambling from many different points of view, and the casinos accommodate them all.
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October 10th, 2014 at 9:06:10 AM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)


I always say that I just got here myself.

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3. Shooters that take more than a minute to roll the dice while they go through some ridiculous ritual


When they seven out, I say it loud enough so the shooter can here me, "I could have done that without going thru all that dice manipulation."

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October 10th, 2014 at 9:12:52 AM permalink
Last time in Vegas ... (and of course right during a real good roll) a guy came up and threw about $400 in wrinkled up ones on the table saying "my stripper money". The management would not accept his money, asked him to go to the cashier, but the guy would not and continued throwing it on the table "its money, you have to take it". Long story ... finally security got involved and he was gone.

It took away from all the players - about 5 minutes of play time, and interupted the rhythm of the roll.

PET PEEVE !!! - interupting an entire table of players because you are selfish.
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October 10th, 2014 at 9:24:33 AM permalink
Another pet peeve is when the player next to you calls you an a**hole when you make a don't bet. On a Carnival Cruise ... the guy would say it (and the dealers heard him many times) every don't bet I would make. I finially started betting the right side EXCEPT when he would roll and then I would bet heavy on the don't side.

It came to a conclusion when he told the dealer to move MY Place bet from the 6 to HIS 8. Rookie dealer did, and when I said it was my bet he moved, confusion lead to the dealer not being sure. Boxman steped in, but the guy kept saying it was HIS bet. They said they were not sure whose bet it was, and the guy kept saying it was his (even though he didn't have ANY Place bets). My friend, my wife and I all cashed in and left just to avoid any further conflicts.

PET PEEVE - when a rude player is not removed from the table.

PS - I went to the Casino Manager and complained ... he then removed the player due to further conflicts and language. I got a note under my door then next morning for two free cruises. It pays to stay calm and go to Management rather then argue at the table.
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October 10th, 2014 at 9:27:28 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

A player who incessantly calls numbers out...so I can't even hear the stickman's call of the dice. Look Jack, you throw them, they landed... now shut up.


Omg this. The last time I played craps I had some guy with come bets shouting every number he wanted rolled. There was a decent roll and he ended up getting 4, 5, then all 6 numbers. He would shout them OVER AND OVER before the shooter threw.

Example: At one point he had come bets on 4, 5, 6, and the 10. My brother thought it was so obnoxious he held his hand up to count each repetition of the guy yelling "FOUR FIVE SIX TEN, COME ON SHOOTER! FOR FIVE SIX TEN, COME ON SHOOTER!" This guy yelled exactly that EVERY roll for that shooter for about 20 minutes, and he yelled it at least 4-6 times (my brother needed 2 hands) from the point the shooter got the dice to when they landed. It was one of the most annoying things ever.

For me, as I play both sides but I do play DP/DC more, I hate the pass line players that make fun of me, or intentionally laugh when I lose a DP bet. Where the hell does this even come from? I've never in my life clapped, yelled, pointed, and laughed at a pass line player for losing when the 7 out came. Why on Earth must you be an asshole and clap when I lose? I'm just betting the game another way they offer it, I'm not betting "against" you. We're both playing against the house, moron.
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October 10th, 2014 at 6:37:39 PM permalink
If I'm shooting, I have the dice, and some retard has his hands in the tub, I generally wait a few seconds (dealers say "hands up!"). If he doesn't pull his hands outta the tub, I see how hard I can hit him with the dice...although I usually miss.

I hate when a BP walks up to the table and starts betting hard ways and hoppers to slow down the game.

When people on the dark side cheer on 7 out.

Idiotic dealers that don't know what "PRESS" or "PRESS TO $X" or "GO TO $X" means. And for f*** sake, if there's $300 on a 5 and I say "go to five" that means five hundred dollars not five dollars. (Of course, most dealers have no problem. Just sometimes a dealer will have a stick up his ass.)

Or when dealers keep trying to sell me bets. If I haven't been betting in the middle, chances are I'm not going to randomly start betting in the middle.
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October 10th, 2014 at 7:28:44 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus




When they seven out, I say it loud enough so the shooter can here me, "I could have done that without going thru all that dice manipulation."



LOL! Love it!
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October 10th, 2014 at 7:34:29 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE


You are complaining about a hot woman hovering over you? To each their own.



Let me know when you see one. I've yet to see a hot one in Tahoe


Quote: GWAE


I agree it is annoying but when they do it and shoot 30 times then it is worth the wait. If they do it and PSO then their turn is over quick enough. The way I look at it, the longer they take to shoot the less money I am losing.





Regardless if it's a negative expectation game, I don't go in with the intention of losing. I also have a limited time so whether I win or lose, I want to play
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October 11th, 2014 at 11:13:43 AM permalink
The guy who buys in for $2,400 during a really hot roll and brings everything to a halt while the dealer counts the money and sorts his chips.
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October 11th, 2014 at 11:34:57 AM permalink
Quote: When they seven out, I say it loud enough so the shooter can here me, "I could have done that without going thru all that dice manipulation."



LOL! Love it!



I remember one time the shooter established a point and when they gave him the dice back he would pick them up and gently toss them 3 times towards the wall in front of him before he would toss them down the other end of the table.

When he sevened out, the table got a big laugh with my comment.
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October 11th, 2014 at 12:02:45 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

I remember one time the shooter established a point and when they gave him the dice back he would pick them up and gently toss them 3 times towards the wall in front of him before he would toss them down the other end of the table.

When he sevened out, the table got a big laugh with my comment.



I would have loved to have been there when you did that (that would have been a howl).

I was at the Venetian about a year ago, and we had some guy that thought he could do some kind of Jedi Mind Trick on the dice. They would pass the dice to him and he would pick them up and put them on his forehead. And then he took a pose that looked like Rodin's "the thinker". He would hold the pose for a good two minutes every time. I complained to the table manager, who preceded to call his supervisor, and then these clowns just watched him keep doing it. I walked to the side of the table they were on and asked "What the hell guys?! Seriously?! You're not going to do anything about this?". They just said he wasn't being vulgar or causing any harm to anyone, so there was nothing they could do.

And I know there are those that will still say "well if he hit a point, what difference does it make?" Well, yeah, he hit a whopping two points and it took 40 minutes to do it. I don't know about the people that say time doesn't matter, but when I go to Tahoe or Vegas, I am there for a limited amount of time. In Vegas, especially, I'm going to breakfast and dinner with my wife, sometimes we see a show, sometimes she wants to go out to the pool. The bottom line is I'm not looking to spend 24/7 at the tables (in fact my normal sessions are usually not more than a couple of hours). This is just ridiculous nonsense that no one should have to deal with.
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October 11th, 2014 at 12:25:35 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

I remember one time the shooter established a point and when they gave him the dice back he would pick them up and gently toss them 3 times towards the wall in front of him before he would toss them down the other end of the table.

When he sevened out, the table got a big laugh with my comment.




It seems that the afterglow of humiliating another human being is still with you.

Do you think that blowing out someones else's candle makes your burn brighter?
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October 11th, 2014 at 12:26:56 PM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife



I was at the Venetian about a year ago, and we had some guy that thought he could do some kind of Jedi Mind Trick on the dice.

I think I know that guy.


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October 11th, 2014 at 12:33:42 PM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

I would have loved to have been there when you did that (that would have been a howl).

I was at the Venetian about a year ago, and we had some guy that thought he could do some kind of Jedi Mind Trick on the dice. They would pass the dice to him and he would pick them up and put them on his forehead. And then he took a pose that looked like Rodin's "the thinker". He would hold the pose for a good two minutes every time. I complained to the table manager, who preceded to call his supervisor, and then these clowns just watched him keep doing it. I walked to the side of the table they were on and asked "What the hell guys?! Seriously?! You're not going to do anything about this?". They just said he wasn't being vulgar or causing any harm to anyone, so there was nothing they could do.

And I know there are those that will still say "well if he hit a point, what difference does it make?" Well, yeah, he hit a whopping two points and it took 40 minutes to do it. I don't know about the people that say time doesn't matter, but when I go to Tahoe or Vegas, I am there for a limited amount of time. In Vegas, especially, I'm going to breakfast and dinner with my wife, sometimes we see a show, sometimes she wants to go out to the pool. The bottom line is I'm not looking to spend 24/7 at the tables (in fact my normal sessions are usually not more than a couple of hours). This is just ridiculous nonsense that no one should have to deal with.



Are we supposed to believe that the Venetian will not only let a player remove the dice from the the table and go outside the rail with them, but also hold the dice for two minutes without throwing?

What was his minimum bet? Assclowning at the table usually requires a larger minimum bet.

There is always the option for you to get a private table with a 25 or 100 minimum.

My experience is they want the dice thrown in less than 10 seconds if someone is setting the dice.
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October 11th, 2014 at 12:42:00 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Are we supposed to believe that the Venetian will not only let a player remove the dice from the the table and go outside the rail with them, but also hold the dice for two minutes without throwing?

What was his minimum bet? Assclowning at the table usually requires a larger minimum bet.

There is always the option for you to get a private table with a 25 or 100 minimum.

My experience is they want the dice thrown in less than 10 seconds if someone is setting the dice.



Uh, you really don't have to believe me (I really don't care). It happened. If you read my comment, you would be aware that he wasn't "setting the dice". The moron thought he could make the dice do what he wanted by mental telepathy. He wasn't "outside the rail" (he was leaning into the table in his "Thinker" pose with the dice in plain view of the dealer) but yeah, I assumed he was violating some kind of rule, hence I complained to the pit boss. And no, the Venetian does not go around just giving a private table to people who want to play at a table for a minimum of $25 to $100 (but I suggest the next time you're there, go ask the pit boss if he can open a private table for you because you want to play $25). That's ridiculous.
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October 11th, 2014 at 12:54:23 PM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

Uh, you really don't have to believe me (I really don't care). It happened. And no, the Venetian does not go around just giving private table to people who want to play at a tables for a minimum of $25 to $100. That's ridiculous.



Well that's two of us. There are plenty of tables that can be had for black chip play, you may be spot on about the V, I haven't tried them. When I posted that I didn't consider that it had to be the V. I wish I could have heard the conversation you had with the boss, that would have given me a good chuckle. To be able to command the atmosphere at a strip casino craps table usually takes more than red chip play. just sayin
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October 11th, 2014 at 12:57:31 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Well that's two of us. There are plenty of tables that can be had for black chip play, you may be spot on about the V, I haven't tried them. When I posted that I didn't consider that it had to be the V. I wish I could have heard the conversation you had with the boss, that would have given me a good chuckle. To be able to command the atmosphere at a strip casino craps table usually takes more than red chip play. just sayin



It was a $10 table and the guy doing it was betting about 1/3 of what me and the guy next to me were betting.
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October 11th, 2014 at 1:00:45 PM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

It was a $10 table and the guy doing it was betting about 1/3 of what me and the guy next to me were betting.



It would have bothered me enough to leave as well. I am a red chip player and if I can, I like a 3 dollar min. I am there to play, I agree the comedy acts should be at another venue. Including acts by the crew, the stick changes should be seamless as well as chip fills.

The rules seem different per bet class, is what I seem to witness. I once asked a bj dealer what was the most outrageous thing he had witnessed at the table, [up in Reno]. He said a high roller got off his stool and urinated between the tables on the carpet and continued to play.

My comment about the dies leaving the table comes from when I see players messing around with the dice outside the chip rails, dealers and security usually light right up. They don't want those cubes out where they can be more easily switched.

I hear ya, time is limited. "they're out they roll"
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October 11th, 2014 at 6:49:37 PM permalink
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We should go play craps sometime lol
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October 12th, 2014 at 6:48:50 AM permalink
Other people.
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October 12th, 2014 at 7:27:19 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

The guy who buys in for $2,400 during a really hot roll and brings everything to a halt while the dealer counts the money and sorts his chips.




But doesnt DI/DC keep an expert winning regardless of breaks? I thought these guys on "Hot rolls" turn it on like magic and nothing gets in their way.
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October 12th, 2014 at 4:12:03 PM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)



I get that all the time and my answer is always "A lot of fields"
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October 12th, 2014 at 4:39:26 PM permalink
Here's 23 things that piss me off.

1. The idiot who has his hands in the way, the dice hits his hands, and it's a 7. I wish there was a rule that said it was a "no roll" if hands touch the dice.
2. Your on a hot roll, there's thousands of dollars on the table, and some guy buys in for $10 and they 7 out.
3. Your on a hot roll and they slow down the game with a stick change and the shooter immediately 7's out.
4. Idiot dealers that bring the game to a complete halt because they can't figure out your payout.
5. Guys who have a 30 minute roll but only roll about 6 times because every time they throw the dice it's off the table "same dice", off the table "same dice".
6. People with no money that stand around the table and tell you how to bet.
7. Superstitious people with no money that stand around the table and tell you how to bet ie: "Everytime a 4 rolls hop the 9's". Then 15 minutes later when a 9 rolls after a 4 they go "see told you". Of course they don't say a word the other 19 times a 4 rolled and a different number besides 9 hit.
8. Cigarette smokers that point their smoke right in your face. That also goes to those people that bring those nasty smelling cheap cigars.
9. Shooters that after having a hot roll expect and ask for a tip from somebody that's making a lot of money on their roll. You could have bet the same things the person that made money bet, why didn't you?
10. Idiots that throw out late proposition bets when the shooter is about to throw the dice.
11. Idiots that throw out late self service bets while the shooter is throwing the dice and the dice hits their hands causing a 7.
12. Guys who come up to me with $3 and ask me to put it on top of my bet or odds.
13. When the shooter 7's out some player goes "I knew he was going to do that", well why didn't you turn your bets off?
14. Dealers who are constantly screwing up your bets ie: You tell them you want the hard 6 and they put it on the hard 10
15. Your at a table with a bunch of drunks and they give the reaction that you'd normally see on a 6 point fire when somebody hits a $12 8.
16. The guys that show up with a bunch of white chips and do dumb hop bets every roll. It's even worse when you get the occasional high roller that's constantly hopping a bunch of different numbers with black chips and it takes several minutes to figure out the payout.
17. Your on the don't pass and some jerk says "You better switch to the pass, this shooter is Hot", 15 seconds later this so called "great shooter" sevens out.
18. You throw the dice off the table some guy next to you is yelling at you "Say Same dice! Same Dice!". I'm the shooter, if you want the same dice wait your turn.
19. Guys who color up in the middle of the roll. The dealer sets their huge stack of chips in the come. The shooter shoots differently to avoid hitting the chips or the dice hits the chips and it's a 7
20. Guys who during their big pre-shot ritual lick and blow on the dice in between every roll. I'm waiting to see somebody spit on the dice in between every roll.
21. Dealers that encourage players to make bad bets. Example: I saw some player that clearly didn't know what he was doing put $10 on the don't pass. After he survived the come out roll the point was 6. The dealer told the player he should move from the don't pass to the pass because 6 is an easy point to make. The player moved their bet from the don't to the pass line and I got into it with the dealer and the boxman took the dealers side. They then 7'd out. The player would have won $10 but instead lost $10.
22. Guys that bring a large amount of money and then make pointless bets. Like $300 on the Big 8 or are constantly betting black and purple on the field. I once asked somebody why they would put $300 on the big 8 instead of placing it he said "I like to be able to control when I want to take my bets down myself"
23. Somebody is having a monster roll and there's less than $100 worth of action on the table.
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October 12th, 2014 at 4:40:56 PM permalink
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October 12th, 2014 at 5:35:44 PM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)

2. Cocktail waitresses who ask if you want a drink while you're rolling and hover over you like a stalker if you don't reply to them

3. Shooters that take more than a minute to roll the dice while they go through some ridiculous ritual

4. People trying to teach others and pointing to things over the table at the time the shooter is about to roll (getting their hands in a position where the dice can hit them)



disagree with the first 2 agree with the last 2

1 seems like small talk to me, they are playing no matter what has happened
2 that's their job, you will probably the first to say "where the F is that waitress??" when you are not rolling
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October 12th, 2014 at 5:59:36 PM permalink
Quote: JW17

disagree with the first 2 agree with the last 2

1 seems like small talk to me, they are playing no matter what has happened
2 that's their job, you will probably the first to say "where the F is that waitress??" when you are not rolling



Silly assumptions. On #2, I have about 3 drinks a year and none are at a craps table (I never drink when I gamble). I couldn't care less if a cocktail waitress never comes by, but understand they should for other players. But they should know better than to hover over you. If you don't say anything, an experienced cocktail waitress knows you're not interested (and they also leave because they know they're not making any money waiting to find out if you want a drink). I've already addressed the "hot chick" syndrome. Why would I care about a pretty woman when I'm focusing on gambling (and as stated in the other post...they are few and far between when I'm in Tahoe). If I want to sit around and watch chicks (at a place that actually has good looking women), I'll go have a coke at the bar from a good vantage point.

As for the small talk, here's a thought. Say hello (then you don't sound like an idiot who thinks anything that happened in the past has any chance of happening in the future of a totally random game). I like DeMango's answer best and will probably utilize it the next time the question comes up ("Let's tell them several players just left with 10K, in winnings. You just missed the Captain, him and Scobie had back to back 60 roll hands.")
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October 12th, 2014 at 6:01:06 PM permalink
Love your list Guitarman. I'm with you on pretty much the whole thing.
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October 12th, 2014 at 6:03:20 PM permalink
Quote: guitarmandp


12. Guys who come up to me with $3 and ask me to put it on top of my bet or odds.

23. Somebody is having a monster roll and there's less than $100 worth of action on the table.



never had #12 happen, but yes that would be annoying.

#23 is so flipping true. been guilty of it myself
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October 12th, 2014 at 6:07:06 PM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

Silly assumptions. On #2, I have about 3 drinks a year and none are at a craps table (I never drink when I gamble). I couldn't care less if a cocktail waitress never comes by, but understand they should for other players. But they should know better than to hover over you. If you don't say anything, an experience cocktail waitress knows you're not interested (and they also leave because they know they're not making any money waiting to find out if you want a drink). I've already addressed the "hot chick" syndrome. Why would I care about a pretty woman when I'm focusing on gambling (and as stated in the other post...they are few and far between when I'm in Tahoe). If I want to sit around and watch chicks (at a place that actually has good looking women), I'll go have a coke at the bar from a good vantage point.

As for the small talk, here's a thought. Say hello (then you don't sound like an idiot who thinks anything that happened in the past has any chance of happening in the future of a totally random game).



fair enough we agree to disagree. I drink at the table so Im happy they hover.
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October 12th, 2014 at 10:07:57 PM permalink
My list

People that think that somehow if the dice hits a hand (because they were teaching or whatever) that this changes the outcome of what might have been.

People that think that hitting the dice on chips placed late somehow changes the outcome of what might have been.

People that think that placing money somehow changes the flow, or how the shooter throws the dice and thus changes the outcome of what might have been.

Finally, and most important -

People who add money to their pass line bet so they can increase their odds bet by one unit.
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October 12th, 2014 at 10:40:49 PM permalink
My list :
I don't have one. I am entitled to lose my money anyway I want to.
And so are YOU !
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October 13th, 2014 at 1:32:08 AM permalink
Most of the time that dealers setup bets or press them the wrong way is likely due to miscommunication. Don't say "press me to 150" if there are still 3 people before you to be paid. Don't throw in money to the prop box when dealer is taking bets down / making payouts / setting up other bets / etc.
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October 13th, 2014 at 3:51:39 AM permalink
I agree that dice striking hands is irritating, but not because it made a 7-out or whatever more likely [no matter the times it sure seems like it]. It is a matter of etiquette, your hands aren't supposed to be in the way, I make an effort to keep mine out of the way, so damn it, get yours out of the way!

BTW it is incorrect to say hitting hands or objects does not change the outcome; most of the time it does. However, it changes one outcome to another random one. If you don't believe in DI, one random outcome to another.

Etiquette says the shooter is entitled to whatever he can roll without outside influence, even if the shooter is not setting the dice.
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October 13th, 2014 at 11:04:38 AM permalink
new Player: "What's the six and eight mean right here?"
Dealer: "pays even money when 6/8 hit. better to bet it up here"
new player "what's this field ? what's it pay ? wait what are those red ones i want 31 for 1 " *tries placing bet on 12 in middle of roll
new player: "whoah what's the come?"
dealer: "it's like a new passline bet for the next number to be rolled"
new player: "so you just automatically win?"
other player: "yes, you automatically win. put all your money on the come and you win"

The new player didn't fall for it. =\
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October 14th, 2014 at 5:23:01 PM permalink
People who deliberately make bad bets and won't let the dealers help them. EXAMPLE: Point is 4. Player puts down a $10 Pass Line bet after the point is established. Dealer calls out, "Point is placed," in an effort to help the player - get them $8 more if it hits and the power to pick it up. Player insists it's a Pass Line bet. Dealer explains the difference. Player shouts back, "I just want my ten dollars!" People are literally taking money out of their own pockets - it's the most absurd thing I've seen since I worked customer service for a credit card company and had people call in to REMOVE extra rewards - insisting on the removal even after being told they are a free benefit. Damn it, people, take the free money.

People who hit a monster prop bet and insist on being paid only in red chips.

People who don't get confirmation from the dealer on their bets and then complain about the result - if it's busy and the dealer doesn't say it, he/she didn't hear it, and it didn't happen.
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October 14th, 2014 at 9:10:17 PM permalink
My number one pet peeve at a craps table involves my ears. If I shoot the dice (or merely play at the same side of the table as the shooter), then, in most places, when the stickman calls the roll he faces away from me (looking at those dice at the other end of the table when he makes the call). Which means that I often can't hear the call. The better stickmen know enough to either face the center of the table to call it, or call it twice (once in each direction), or do it loudly. Sure, I understand that their natural inclination involves facing the dice when they make the call; but as professionals they should know better (maybe 1 in 5 knows this; it depends on the casino too).

As far as pet peeves go, I consider this one pretty minor. :)

I also can't stand the people who not only don't tip the cocktail waitresses, but don't have enough breeding to even say, "Thank you." They never tip the dealers either, of course.

The rest of it all amuses me. Except when someone thoughtlessly blows cigarette smoke in my face. I don't mind when they do it thoughtfully though (but that rarely happens).

I don't even get annoyed when people helpfully tell me now to gamble (always bad advice -- for me), explain the rules to me (always wrongly), et cetera. More entertainment value, like the people who set the dice, want "same dice" and so forth. I don't blame the dealers if they give me bad advice; after all, they work for the casino. And I have found out (to my surprise) that most dealers understand the game as well as most players (not in the slightest) so probably think they give good advice.

Okay, I have one more pet peeve. The poseurs who don't gamble (usually with friends who do) who pretend that they know statistics and probability and then give me standard advice from Wikipedia that always consists of "The don't pass bet with maximum odds has the lowest house edge." True enough so far as it goes, but I could train a parrot to say that. They almost always claim to work in highly technical/scientific fields (like electrical engineering) and claim to have a great command of advanced mathematics. If they do that a lot, talking to me and giving me advice that I don't solicit, then I invariably eat their souls in front of their friends. Otherwise, I enjoy a good entertaining poseur at a craps table.
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October 26th, 2014 at 5:33:55 AM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

1. New players coming in on the table and asking me "how's the table been" (as though what happened over the last hour has any bearing on what will happen in the next hour....totally illogical question)



The few times I've gotten to play I sometimes ask how the table is .. lol .. but I mean it in the sense of is it a fun table or not. But even as a win/lose question it's also a way to break the ice with fellow players or dealers (obviously as long as you aren't desturbing the shooters or the dealers are super busy .. which they usually aren't for me because I always have the decency to go to the less busy side! Which brings me to ...


One of my pet peeves is when a new player comes to the table and places himself on the side with 5 players and 20 bets instead of the side with 2 player each only placing 6 and 8 as their only bets! lol
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October 26th, 2014 at 5:40:27 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

I've given this question some thought in the past. Has anyone ever been scared away by the truth? (Table sux)



It depends on the casino I would guess (if they have multiple tables specifically). I'm at the Montreal Casino .. and we usually have 2 tables going .. local regulars sometimes ask other regulars and some definitely go to the other table .. lol. Others actually stay (maybe the figure "law of averages will favour them" or some other silly superstition). Often it's just a question of the question being less boring than "How is the weather" .. if something interesting happened then it's the chance to get a story .. might not even be about how hot/cold the table is.

If you get one of the "grumpy regulars" .. you could tell him that the table was really hot earlier .. but that it got really cold a little while ago ... not that I would ever say that myself! ;) lol
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October 26th, 2014 at 11:01:10 AM permalink
People that think that anything even remotely out of the ordinary somehow "causes" a seven out.
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