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spadeknight
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August 16th, 2014 at 12:57:44 PM permalink
I would only consider this kind of bet on the 6 or 8 because of the 5 to 6 odds of the dice rolling these numbers because the 6 and 8 are way eaier to roll than a 4 or 10.
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August 16th, 2014 at 1:10:01 PM permalink
http://krigman.casinocitytimes.com/article/when-do-put-bets-at-craps-beat-their-place-and-buy-counterparts-5946 This is a link to the article i read. It was written in 2003. You might have to copy and paste it into your browser.
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August 16th, 2014 at 1:12:15 PM permalink
No im not an expert. but thanks for asking :)
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August 16th, 2014 at 1:15:08 PM permalink
Quote: spadeknight

Thanks for the video Ahigh. very good information about put bets.

I do not watch too many
non-entertainment type videos (the baby one is an exception) especially where the voice in the video grinds on my central nervous system.

For entertainment I normally read the Google transcript
That video reads funny

w here's the morn typical missed a I haven't seen the casino
0:04 you walked up to this well this play over here issuing
0:08 he's got on us on for he's got a pass line bet
0:12 and you can see the point mark as a for that on them
0:17 there warmth this year right you're trying to shoot for
0:21 or he doesn't want to hear about us he wants to hear about
0:25 for you wanna see India all on this issue
0:29 for shooter you can't you can tell wish
0:32 trash fortune with their pastime English
0:35 for whatever numbers marked by the spot right here news
0:39 they're smart have the money back here this is their previous
0:42 with the house it doesn't have any advantage now
0:45 you're just coming up here is the player what's the danger for you
0:49 here's the worst thing you could do you see I'm here
0:53 past after sorry spore powerhouses
0:58 there's do that happen this that did
1:01Tampa Bay even mine generally pays off one out of three times
1:05 you do were if it were this here
1:08 which ones same frequency his of dull so they're really keeping have the pain
1:13 they should be %um the secret with this
1:17 every other mistake about then passed too late
1:21 is how you stack your chips on the line
1:24 this generally he put a whole lot of money
1:27 here only his even marginally better
1:31 points5 here forces agent and you walk up to the table
1:35 just the Monroe your online you know
1:39 should this call he'll stack for take the bottom shipment
1:43 offset but also fortune diameter
1:46 in the research is going Harbor you coming to an end heated
1:51 were people who play in in you input he'll start online
1:55 like that that the original you know what's going on
1:58 you see the point murder %um the point the usual verbalize
2:03 placing point and they know that this is going
2:06 this is going to pay is a hundred dollars and stacked like this
2:10 its gonna pay on 109
2:13 five dollars it stacked like this the European I'm
2:17 dollars plus here base so
2:20 as a beginner player knowing that mean
2:23 the park is here you better run actually the
2:27 visited physically on this line is called pathfinder
2:30 this is the alarm I'm past that monolithic put it on the line
2:35 blotter furnace commuter using this
2:39 there's actually three buttons positions pathfinder
2:42 is Arthur this is referred to as I'll service
2:46 place that Molly Brown place for
2:49 rappers mine here to the word our
2:52 placed for by just parked his or
2:55 that's a special case where combat social service close
2:58 that solar electoral table
3:01 when you can bet between the second twirl
3:05 in the third will in in bed on through in double 0
3:08 is this is a special mark as the soldiers
3:12 later but again as a new player them most important thing
3:16 knows do not pass line points
3:19 already Marquis special warrant that
3:23 absolute worst you can make table very very very important
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mustangsally
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August 16th, 2014 at 1:15:19 PM permalink
Quote: spadeknight

http://krigman.casinocitytimes.com/article/when-do-put-bets-at-craps-beat-their-place-and-buy-counterparts-5946 This is a link to the article i read. It was written in 2003. You might have to copy and paste it into your browser.

Thanks
He is one of the only 2 craps experts I know of.
and we know he is a dead man

added: I do not think he ever dealt the game but maybe he did, in a real casino that is
that makes a difference if you truly are a craps expert, in my opinion, and that could change btw
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mustangsally
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August 16th, 2014 at 1:15:25 PM permalink
Quote: spadeknight

I would only consider this kind of bet on the 6 or 8 because of the 5 to 6 odds of the dice rolling these numbers because the 6 and 8 are way eaier to roll than a 4 or 10.

way easier? That is relative

But the 4 and 10 pay way way more than a 6 or 8 ever will
Dont you want to win more money when you do win?

or do you only want to win more often?
IF that is true, try Lay bets

Sally

I did not think you were an expert, the question was aimed at Ahigh and he never answers.
So he is not a craps expert either, in my opinion
and that is what really matters
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August 16th, 2014 at 1:20:04 PM permalink
Thanks for the reponse. actually im trying to win more often since i dont want to expose myself to the table any longer than i have to and the 6 and 8 roll more times than the 4 or 10. I probably wont employ his strategy just yet. I want to get advice about it before i go frollicking in the land of "i sure hope this works" ville.
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mustangsally
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August 16th, 2014 at 1:30:47 PM permalink
Quote: spadeknight

actually im trying to win more often since i dont want to expose myself to the table any longer than i have to

that could be a crime in most casinos -
"i dont want to expose myself to the table any longer than i have to"
Quote: spadeknight

and the 6 and 8 roll more times than the 4 or 10.

that is because of the dice and nothing more.
A $30 Buy 4 could net you on a win $59
A $30 Place 6 only nets you $35

what bet (from the 2 above) gives you the best chance to show a lifetime profit of say 3000 bets?
no math, what you feel?

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August 16th, 2014 at 2:06:10 PM permalink
lifetime is one thing and one session is another.
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August 16th, 2014 at 2:53:34 PM permalink
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lifetime is one thing and one session is another.

nice opinion.
now you sound like an expert
just remember there are no craps experts here at the Wizard of Vegas
none

fact: we all only play one lifetime session
(Rick Parris claims to have never made one bet in a casino. But he is now dead)

fact continued: we only pause our one lifetime session, and that could be many times and then we are dead

No difference if we see 100 rolls today and every other day for 3000 days
or see 3000 rolls every day for the next 100 days

we saw only one lifetime session of 300,000 rolls

Independent and identically distributed random variables
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_and_identically_distributed_random_variables

Sally

I forgot, you also crap out when you throw a 7 and the point is established on the pass line

sharp stuff
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