bodyforlife
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July 30th, 2014 at 8:03:50 PM permalink
I'm just curious to see a consensus on this (Tahoe/Vegas only please)
Ahigh
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July 30th, 2014 at 10:57:43 PM permalink
In Vegas, worst comps are MGM for craps players, especially if you want a room. MGM needs $100 average bet for 3 hours or more per day for four days to get a room.

Best comps in Vegas really depend on what your minimum standards are and what you are looking for.

There are three main properties that comp well for locals play (frequent but possibly lower limit). Those are:

* Silverton [they have not been rating properly and once Theo left as a host, comps have been cut back according to many players]
* Any Boyd Casino -- they comp differently though
- California Casino and Main Street Station -- need to ask in the pit for food comp -- ask at players club for room -- will get free food coupons no free bets
- Gold Coast - ask pit for food comp -- will get free bet coupons and free food coupons in addition
- The Orleans - will get free food coupons and free bets -- ask pit for food comp
- SunCoast Casino
- Sam's Town - Free bet coupons and free food coupons - never asked for food there in the pit but assume works the same way
* Stations Casino
- Palace Station -- rate your play fairly well
- Red Rock -- may need to bet higher to get good rating
- Green Valley Ranch -- may need to bet higher
- Boulder Station -- very low minimum
- Fiesta Rancho - very low minimum -- good comps
- Fiesta Henderson - very low minimum -- good comps

The two fiesta properties send out separate free bets and free food coupons from the other stations casinos, and also have comps that are easier to get as the good is less expensive as are the bets.

You may notice that, in general, the less business a casino normally gets the more aggressive they are with their comps. I notice this. If you're looking to get free rooms, I would probably suggest Gold Coast as their rooms are nice, they are not too far off the strip, and you can play enough to get comp'd a room with less action that a similar room in a better location.

The Silverton has very nice room that, even if you pay for them, are totally worth the cost until you get to platinum. Platinum players get 2 or 3 nights per month free rooms every month. You need 50,000 points to get platinum. The ratings are 250 points per $5 average bet per hour and they count up to double odds on the ratings at Silverton. So $25 with $50 odds on the pass line and don't bother with come bets will get the most consistent ratings at Silverton. If you start with $75 working a place bet, it might save you time to get that $75 rating instead of having the box sit there and wait to see how much you bet on odds. Then just swap over to double odds.

So $25 with $50 odds should earn you 15x250 points per hour. So $25 average plus $50 in free bets can get you to platinum after 13 to 15 hours of total play. $0.10 per throw time 100 throws per hour is $10/hour time 13 hours is $130 average cost to get to Platinum.

Platinum status is good for at least six months, so $130 can theoretically get you 12 to 18 nights if you used them all.

I hope this is helpful.
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July 30th, 2014 at 11:28:37 PM permalink
I can't speak for craps, but moderate red chipping at BJ has gotten me a ton of mailers and 2-3 any-day stays at Silverton; enough to only be sitting at the mid-gold card rank. However, it has been a while since I've been so if they have been cutting back, I may have missed that.

One thing about The Orleans is that staying on room offers will cut into the discretionary comps you can get.
bodyforlife
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August 1st, 2014 at 7:13:10 PM permalink
It is. Thank you Ahigh.
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August 2nd, 2014 at 5:24:01 AM permalink
Other than MGM ... any comments on other "on the strip" casinos Ahigh ?
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August 2nd, 2014 at 6:03:50 AM permalink
Quote: NewToCraps

Other than MGM ... any comments on other "on the strip" casinos Ahigh ?



Stratosphere can actually comp alright. The comp dollars are worth twice as much on food, and they have a nice place up at the top of the tower called "Top of the World" that has a few good dishes.







They have $10 minimums and 10x odds. Just don't bet the field, and all buy bets are vig up front. They do serve Monster Energy (one of the few). They have a pool with cabanas and I've had a comp'd cabana with a TV and comp'd fruits and drinks and nice service. Some games that are fun there too. The pool is on the 8th floor up high.

The top-of-the-world place rotates ever so slowly and the ambience is very high class (unlike the ambience of the casino floor honestly). The prices are fairly reasonable, especially with the comp discounts.

This place will also comp you $25 free bet chips pretty frequently. If you are into playing 10x odds, I don't know if they comp any of your odds, but I've received a lot of free play here doing 10x odds. And they have treated me very well.

Most of the strip locations just simply don't comp well at all for craps play in my experience (especially MGM properties) and I don't bother at all. Too many other good deals for locals.
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August 2nd, 2014 at 6:06:08 AM permalink
To give you an idea of the contrast (a sample of the lower class patron at this casino), this photo was also taken on the same trip as the above photos from the parking lot.

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August 2nd, 2014 at 6:14:34 AM permalink
Here's some more food comp photos to give you an idea of low cost high quality food comps available for craps players.

Ellis Island Chicken Parm (even a few minutes of green chip action). I hate recommending this place since they underpaid me $190. Be careful of black chip action they can't deal black chip at all at this $3 table. But if you stick with green and below they will treat you like royalty, and the food is a great comp that is super easy to get.



They also have ribs that are amazing. Not far off the strip, and good food and brews. Again, TERRIBLE craps table, but GREAT food comps.



The above was taken at TGI Friday's at Gold Coast. This is a $20 Friday's dish that at most places would cost $50. Easy to get a comp'd meal like this with green chip action for a while.

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