The Whales of Caesar's Palace

I rarely go to Caesar's so I headed out there tonight to kill time.

I find their tables extremely bouncy, and was just planning to make minimum bets and pass the time.

I go to an empty $10 table and I buy in for $100. Another guy buys in at the same time for over $20,000.

I already had my $10 on the pass line and I ask the guy, "hey do you want to shoot?"

He says, "I don't care, it's up to you."

So I told the crew, "let him have the dice, I don't mind."

What I was thinking was that I would feel terrible if I shot horribly and he lost a bunch of money.

The guy shot horribly for his own bets, and passed the dice back to me. He was having bad luck, but I made him some money on his roll and he threw me $300.

I made sure the crew was alright with me accepting the player tip, and they were getting tipped much more than me and said it was alright.

In any case, it's a rare event for me to accept a player tip, but I definitely appreciated the $300!

The guy lost everything after that but not on my roll.

He was really going for it!! But no so good at betting good bets. I hit a $300 boxcar for him and a $400 hard eight. Those were the biggest pays. I think he came out ahead just about $15,000. Not a super big deal considering he lost $8,000 on just two of his own rolls.

Quote: Ahigh

I made sure the crew was alright with me accepting the player tip

Are you serious? What business is it of theirs?

Quote: sodawater

Are you serious? What business is it of theirs?

Right or wrong, I know a guy, and I'll ya his name, it's David Doyle. One time I tipped a shooter and he about threw a freaking fit! It was pretty comical, but to fully explain what happened I would have to make a video. It was very physical as the seven out was called he was clearing the table and he looked like an ape saying "you don't tip the players you moron, you tip the dealers!"

It might sound like a joke, but he really lost it!

Ever since then (he was fired not long after that) I've been a little more sensitive to dealers not being happy about players getting tipped.

The dealers at Caesar's didn't instigate any problems at all. I just wanted to be sure they weren't all pissed.

And honestly, if there was any issue, I would have told the player to tip the dealers instead of me. That's my normal policy, but I actually have to admit I wanted to keep this one.

Quote: Ahigh

Right or wrong, I know a guy, and I'll ya his name, it's David Doyle. One time I tipped a shooter and he about threw a freaking fit! It was pretty comical, but to fully explain what happened I would have to make a video. It was very physical as the seven out was called he was clearing the table and he looked like an ape saying "you don't tip the players you moron, you tip the dealers!"

It might sound like a joke, but he really lost it!

Ever since then (he was fired not long after that) I've been a little more sensitive to dealers not being happy about players getting tipped.

The dealers at Caesar's didn't instigate any problems at all. I just wanted to be sure they weren't all pissed.

And honestly, if there was any issue, I would have told the player to tip the dealers instead of me. That's my normal policy, but I actually have to admit I wanted to keep this one.

Interesting. I've never tipped a shooter or been tipped as a shooter. When I've seen it, it's usually a female shooter being tipped. Yes it's stereotypical but that's the truth. I've also never played with a whale. I've played with people who gamble in the 4 figures range area but never 5 figures. I must say I envy that experience.

I've seen shooters get tipped all the time. Often when a shooter is having a good roll, players will make hardway bets for the shooter.

Throwing a tip to a shooter after a good roll is pretty common -- but they have to have a good roll.

I've never seen anyone check with the dealers first about accepting a tip. Why would they "instigate" any problems -- shooters have been tipped at Caesars before. Why would they get pissed?

I remember years ago when a wedding couple came to the table -- he in a tux, she in her gown after their ceremony -- and they had very little money. The bride made three or four passes (I don't remember exactly) and then threw a craps on a come-out and they decided to leave the table. "NO!!" everyone cried out, and several of us threw a green chip at them for another passline bet. (Yes they made an instant profit.) She rolled and made another pass. It was a fun event.

Quote: Ahigh

...they were getting tipped much more than me and said it was alright.

There's your answer. If you're getting tipped while the dealers are getting stiffed, then maybe pay it forward, but everyone's making money, so everyone's happy.

As for this David Doyle guy, shame on him for soliciting tips. He was rightfully fired, and his crew probably make better tips without him.