Continuous DON'T COME better than continuous come ?

I know that DC has slightly better odds than playing Come, and the biggest risk of playing continuous come is that you can roll every number and then seven out, but playing DC that actually works in your favor. Still a hot shooter would kill you but that's less likely and you loose one bet at a time not all of them.

Personaly I play only 2 DC plus DP with full odds trying to manage my bankroll, but I have been wondering if I should take the risk.

recently I've decided that you just generally want to limit the amount you "have in action" whether it's darkside or not

Where is the "I am a bigot" checkbox???

Quote: OP

I know that DC has slightly better odds than playing Come, and the biggest risk of playing continuous come is that you can roll every number and then seven out, but playing DC that actually works in your favor. Still a hot shooter would kill you but that's less likely and you loose one bet at a time not all of them.

Personaly I play only 2 DC plus DP with full odds trying to manage my bankroll, but I have been wondering if I should take the risk.

Without going into the longer answer, you should think about the game on a per-roll basis to answer this question. There is no right or wrong. Just comfortable and uncomfortable IMO. Without odds, continous come or don't come is going to be a straight line sloping down with 0.4% edge per roll with very little volatility. This makes it super easy to make your money last, but it makes it super hard to win (or to lose [more than the edge] for that matter).

I guess I should clarify I meant the don't come bets with full odds.

Quote: Martin1024

I guess I should clarify I meant the don't come bets with full odds.

The difference in expectation between the pass and the don't pass completely disappears as the number of rolls increases. If you plan to lay or take odds only once, you're more likely to come out ahead with a don't pass strategy assuming that you're taking enough odds.

I hope you don't take offense to my suggestion, but for anyone who is playing craps "for the long run" as they say, you are only hoping that learning the math helps you to lose a minimal amount of money in certainty in exchange for opportunity to take some free bets or other bets to maximize your volatility. There is no mathematical way, in craps, where you can study how the math is going to help you win more. Only to lose less. When you increase money that you stand to lose in order to lower the edge, you are still no more likely to win in the long run than to lose, and it generally amounts to no difference whether you exchange a better chance to win for a small pay or vice versa.

Once you are expecting to win, the math doesn't matter because either

1) You are believing that you won't lose after playing a long time
2) You're playing such a short session that the math and the other factors aren't a concern

Most people play for such ridiculously short sessions, you could just bet the field and the difference in cost would be less than if you chose not to drink and/or tip the dealers.

Today at the Plaza, someone rolled two hard fours back to back. I told the stick man if he "called another hard four" I would hand in my rack of chips. He called the third hard four in a row, and I handed in all the chips in my rail. It was only $95.

If I didn't do stuff like that, I could save myself a lot more money. But he got a story about calling three hard fours in a row and getting all my money! LOL.

You have got to have fun when you play the game, though. That's my rule #1. And I won every session but that session today, and I came out ahead and had a great time too.

There was some big "punk rock" mega-concert or something going on there today. It was great fun.

Just another perspective.

Have a good time and don't sweat the pennies. Make some stories with some dollars.

Martin1024


We talk so much about what bet is better on depending on the house advantage
and on and on.

Unless your a really good controlled roller that has documented advantage over
the casino, it really does not matter.

what matters is what is happening at the table. If every roller is average 4-5 rolls
and does not repeat anything, the come bet wont work no matter what the odds tell
you. If the 7 appears very often on the come out and all rolls are short the dc with
odds may also kill you. If on the other hand rolls are short but people are repeating
a couple of comes bets may work.


The thing about the continious come bet is you may hit one and lose 5, if you play the
DC and get up on all numbers you may lose a number of them just to win the last.

No matter what anything else tells you, you cant win a bet you dont make and if you
place a 6 & 8 when they are throwing 5 & 9 your a damn fool. Pay attention to
what your roll is doing and what is happening at the table.

dicesetter

Not sure if I've ever told this story before but I remember going to the casion about 6 months ago and I kept betting $15 on the don't come continuosly. The only time I would stop betting the don't come was when I had all of the numbers covered. It was absolutely amazing, I won $2,500 that day betting $15 in about 2 hours and I thought I had finally found a strategy to beat the casino.

I went back to the casino 3 or 4 times using that strategy and lost everytime. Since then I think you are better sticking to one or two bets, and I now disregard that big win as just being extremely lucky.

Quote: dicesitter

If you play the DC and get up on all numbers you may lose a number of them just to win the last.

You win more than "the last." You win on all six bets at once.

Sure you do and my wife does all the fish cleaning for me.


If you are playing a dc every bet and the come out roll is 7 that is
1 loss, you get up on the first number and it is hit that is two loses
and again that is 3 loses and then you get up on 1 and there is a 7
so you lose 3 and win 1.

We have had a number of those players here over the past 5-6 years and now
and then they do get across and win all the bets, but in a couple of hours
all that is gone or they just got back some of the money they had lost before that
roll.

I dont care what the math says...not a single one of those dont players is playing anymore.
none of them, and nota single one of the couple of guys that tried the continious come bet
is playng. On the other hand we do have two very good dont players that play a
dont pass in combination with a lay and then after the come out will play a dont come
and varies the odds depending on the number and they seem to do ok. We have a few two bet
come players and they have good days and bad days, but keep playing for years

The bottom line is clear, a continious come or dont come bet may work in a certain situation, but
that situation is so random you will lose your house tryng to find it. For the average player, a
continious come or dont come over plays your bankroll.

Dicesetter